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Chivalry is not dead; however, it is an extreme rarity in the world today. I love chivalry, as a woman. I think it's important that a man both respect me and be willing to stand up for me. Thankfully, I've found someone that can do that. :)

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Oh yes I sure do want men to be chivalrous. What's weird is how defensive some feminists get about it. I know of one girl at my school who said that she hated it when guys held doors open for her because to her it was a sign that he didn't believe that she was capable of opening it herself.

Odd, I've never heard of or known a guy that has done it for that reason. Apparentally showing courtesy to a lady is regarded as misogynist.

The views of radical feminists smell of elderberries!

Ahh, my unofficial fiancee is the most chivalrous of them all--Jesus Himself, who is the ultimate model for men.

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HisChildForever

There are many definitions of chivalry, in my opinion. Holding open a door is courtesy. But there are some who interpret chivalry to mean that men must protect women because we are fragile (physically and emotionally) and not as capable as men to handle certain situations.

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I also agree with icelandic. For example, if a friend is getting on my nerves, a chivalrous man may offer to speak with that friend. In such a situation I would feel kind of exasperated--I'm a big girl, and I can handle my problems.

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HisChildForever

[quote name='MissyP89' post='1699251' date='Nov 10 2008, 11:43 PM']I also agree with icelandic. For example, if a friend is getting on my nerves, [b]a chivalrous man may offer to speak with that friend.[/b] In such a situation I would feel kind of exasperated--I'm a big girl, and I can handle my problems.[/quote]

Yeah, I would whack him. :wacko:

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[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1699254' date='Nov 10 2008, 11:44 PM']Yeah, I would whack him. :wacko:[/quote]

Oh, I don't know, I think it would depend on the guy. Sometimes they can be completely innocent and nice about it, because they truly care. In that case, I'd say thanks but no thanks. If he were the type that acted as if he had to swoop in and save me, well...no. :getaclue:

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I don't think I have opened a door for myself once at school this year. Being one of the only women going to school at a seminary may have something to do with it, or the whole being a cripple thing. My husband practically throws his coat down when I cross the street. He insists on holding my hand when we just walk down the street. He's British though, so I don't know if that makes a difference.

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princessgianna

It depends on the situation! But personally i love when a guy saves his girl! Cause men are here to protect women. Not that women are weak (cause we aren't). I totally see a balance in the whole thing!

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HisChildForever

[quote name='princessgianna' post='1699268' date='Nov 10 2008, 11:54 PM']It depends on the situation! But personally i love when a guy saves his girl! Cause men are here to protect women. Not that women are weak (cause we aren't). I totally see a balance in the whole thing![/quote]

Yeah, I've heard you say this before. "Men are here to protect women." When a guy "saves" [i]his[/i] girl?

So I can't protect myself?

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Sure we don't want it to be a point where we can't even stand on our own feet without a man but that doesn't mean that we don't ever need help from them. Sometimes we iladies do need some humility. Besides, some guys do have good intentions and are doing it all out of love. Remember that St. Joseph was Our Lady's protector, then Our Lord, and then St. John.

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[quote name='CatherineM' post='1699262' date='Nov 10 2008, 11:52 PM']I don't think I have opened a door for myself once at school this year. Being one of the only women going to school at a seminary may have something to do with it, or the whole being a cripple thing. My husband practically throws his coat down when I cross the street. He insists on holding my hand when we just walk down the street. He's British though, so I don't know if that makes a difference.[/quote]


I was walking into the bulding my Russian class is in and as I approaced the door I saw a girl with a professor was walking through the other side, so I opened it, steping back so the could walk through. The Professor signaled for the girl to go through and then held the door for me saying, "come on son, one good deed deservs another!". I was really shocked. I don't think its so much chivalry is dead as just basic manners are dead. And it may be a British thing. My moms side of the family is super culturally British/high Presberterian Scotts and comeing from that if I see a guy not hold a door open for a woman it's shoching. I just can't imagain not doing it. Of course there really formal. The only time I can ever remember my grandfather raising his voice was once when I was little and useing really poor table manners.

The upside though is that I get the jokes in British sitcoms :smokey:

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[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1699279' date='Nov 10 2008, 10:01 PM']Yeah, I've heard you say this before. "Men are here to protect women." When a guy "saves" [i]his[/i] girl?

So I can't protect myself?[/quote]

My husband is quite chivalrous, however, if something goes bump in the night, I'm the one who gets up to investigate. He knows I'm better in a fight.

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[quote name='CatherineM' post='1699294' date='Nov 11 2008, 12:21 AM']My husband is quite chivalrous, however, if something goes bump in the night, I'm the one who gets up to investigate. He knows I'm better in a fight.[/quote]

:lol_roll:

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