Fox News

[Paladin D]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1688635' date='Oct 29 2008, 12:37 PM']Or, Fox is biased towards the right and MSNBC is biased towards the left. Just because MSNBC is liberal doesn't mean Fox isn't conservative.

CNN is the only network that can really claim to be fair and balanced. Their hosts are quite unbiased, and they have an even share of commentators from both the left and right.[/quote]

I worded my post incorrectly. Obviously to deny that Fox News doesn't have a right-wing bias (in one degree or another) is to be naive. The point I was trying to make, was the level of complaints I see from extreme left-wing individuals who complain about Fox News being 'biased', yet refuse to recognize the overall left-wing bias in not only network media, but also in print as well.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1688686' date='Oct 29 2008, 10:50 AM']Are you a journalist? Because I am... and as far as "taking to the tasks" that makes for great reporting when you are trying to get the Who? What? When? Where? How? and Why? out of them...[/quote]
However, you just got done chastising the other networks for not just "reporting the news." You can't have a double standard and say it's okay for Fox to "take them to task" but if any other network reaches an unfavorable conclusion about McCain, that it is a bias.

Do you understand what I mean, here? Taking someone to task implies a judgment about them. That is not the same as simply reporting the facts. Unless we are not talking about the same meaning of "take to task." What do you mean by this?

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='Paladin D' post='1688689' date='Oct 29 2008, 10:54 AM']I worded my post incorrectly. Obviously to deny that Fox News doesn't have a right-wing bias (in one degree or another) is to be naive. The point I was trying to make, was the level of complaints I see from extreme left-wing individuals who complain about Fox News being 'biased', yet refuse to recognize the overall left-wing bias in not only network media, but also in print as well.[/quote]
That's hypocrisy on their part.

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1688693' date='Oct 29 2008, 11:55 AM']However, you just got done chastising the other networks for not just "reporting the news." You can't have a double standard and say it's okay for Fox to "take them to task" but if any other network reaches an unfavorable conclusion about McCain, that it is a bias.

Do you understand what I mean, here? Taking someone to task implies a judgment about them. That is not the same as simply reporting the facts. Unless we are not talking about the same meaning of "take to task." What do you mean by this?[/quote]

I never said anything of the sort. I chastise the other networks because of their extremely biased leftist slanting of every bit of news. I've seen Fox take both candidates on.

Taking to task is getting the truth out of them, which is what needs to be reported. I don't decry anyone for coming up with truths that paint Mccain in a bad light. The man isn't perfect to me. He's just a better candidate. I think Palin has had her butt kicked by the liberal media ever since she walked into the scene, and to me that is outrageously unfair and to call that biased reporting, is an understatement.

Edited October 29, 2008 by dominicansoul

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1688700' date='Oct 29 2008, 10:58 AM']I never said anything of the sort. I chastise the other networks because of their extremely biased leftist slanting of every bit of news. I've seen Fox take both candidates on.

Taking to task is getting the truth out of them, which is what needs to be reported. I don't decry anyone for coming up with truths that paint Mccain in a bad light. The man isn't perfect to me. He's just a better candidate. I think Palin has had her butt kicked by the liberal media ever since she walked into the scene, and to me that is outrageously unfair and to call that biased reporting, is an understatement.[/quote]
What, in your mind, is biased about how Palin is being treated? Are the facts wrong? The conclusions?

[rachael]

anyone ever see outfoxed?

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='T-Bone _' post='1688637' date='Oct 29 2008, 10:39 AM']Good for a chuckle, but not based at all on reality.[/quote]
Précisément. Reality does NOT have a well-known liberal bias. The fact is, when Conservative ideology meets real life, it is invariably shown to be intellectually bankrupt. The latest debacle with the economy is a case in point, in which Alan Greenspan had to admit during Congressional hearings that his economic theory with respect to the investment banks acting rationally in their own self-interest didn't work out quite as planned.

But everyone must be out of step except Fox News.

[T-Bone _]

[quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1688806' date='Oct 29 2008, 01:51 PM']Précisément. Reality does NOT have a well-known liberal bias. The fact is, when [b]Conservative ideology meets real life, it is invariably shown to be intellectually bankrupt.[/b] The latest debacle with the economy is a case in point, in which Alan Greenspan had to admit during Congressional hearings that his economic theory with respect to the investment banks acting rationally in their own self-interest didn't work out quite as planned.

But everyone must be out of step except Fox News.[/quote]

And liberal ideology fairs better?

[jkaands]

[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1688650' date='Oct 29 2008, 09:54 AM']Fox news gives us the news. And because they do that, they are accused of being biased? The others twist and churn the news to their own viewpoints. That's not journalism, that's propaganda![/quote]

Fox news (aka Fix News or Fox Noise) is widely regarded as being right-wing. MSNBC has developed a reaction to it with Olbermann, who is widely watched. The new Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC has gained meteoric popularity for her attractive and intelligent presentation, countering O'Reilly, not as hard-edged as Olbermann.

I watched O'Reilly once and found him a vicious philistine, one step up from Limbaugh.

Enthusiasm for O'Reilly and Limbaugh on this forum betrays its underlying knee-jerk right-wing nature.

[Adrestia]

[quote name='Paladin D' post='1688689' date='Oct 29 2008, 11:54 AM']I worded my post incorrectly. Obviously to deny that Fox News doesn't have a right-wing bias (in one degree or another) is to be naive. The point I was trying to make, was the level of complaints I see from extreme left-wing individuals who complain about Fox News being 'biased', yet refuse to recognize the overall left-wing bias in not only network media, but also in print as well.[/quote]
Seriously? Even NPR jokes about how left-wing all non-Fox News media outlets are. I, personally, find NPR to be the least biased. I have heard more [i]good [/i]news about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan from NPR than for anywhere else - including Fox News.


O'Reilly and Olbermann both make me ill... but I respect Olbermann more because he doesn't take himself as seriously as O'Reilly does. O'Reilly's nasty temper and rude demeanor to his guests are a real turnoff to me.

[Justin86]

Exactly tgoldson, how is Fox News right-wing biased? Certainly not with their pundit line up, or did Alan Colmes, Greta Van Sustren, and Gerlado Rivera become right wing since I've been in Japan?

Edited October 29, 2008 by Justin86

[kamiller42]

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[XIX]

[quote name='jkaands' post='1688832' date='Oct 29 2008, 04:45 PM'](aka Fix News or Fox Noise)[/quote]
lame.

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='XIX' post='1689011' date='Oct 29 2008, 10:35 PM']lame.[/quote]
I prefer Faux News.