Gratification Through Exercise...

[MONTGOTM]

[b]What if you (I'm a female) are exercising... (crunches/ leg lifts/ ab workout stuff) and can have an orgasm from exercising. I would presume this is not immoral or a sin but what if you cannot stop thinking about sex and then do these exercises for a release. I am not sure if I explained this well enough feel free to ask questions to verify before you can answer but I am struggling with chastity and this seems to be the solution I have come to. Am I sinning?

Side note: I am not having any lustful thoughts while I do this... I am simply counting how many times I can do the exercise.[/b]

[cmotherofpirl]

Pick different exercies that do not result in the same effect.

[MONTGOTM]

I was hoping to get more than an opinion or suggestion for this answer. If anyone has any theological feedback that would be preferred. [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1660628' date='Sep 21 2008, 05:52 PM']Pick different exercies that do not result in the same effect.[/quote]

[Thomist-in-Training]

Maybe switch to the "Q & A" section then where there are specific members whose job is to answer questions.

[mortify]

edit: as suggested you should switch to other exercises.

Edited September 22, 2008 by mortify

[Madame Vengier]

She posted this in the masturbation thread, too.

Bait.

[Theologian in Training]

[quote name='MONTGOTM' post='1660625' date='Sep 21 2008, 06:47 PM'][b]What if you (I'm a female) are exercising... (crunches/ leg lifts/ ab workout stuff) and can have an orgasm from exercising. I would presume this is not immoral or a sin but what if you cannot stop thinking about sex and then do these exercises for a release. I am not sure if I explained this well enough feel free to ask questions to verify before you can answer but I am struggling with chastity and this seems to be the solution I have come to. Am I sinning?

Side note: I am not having any lustful thoughts while I do this... I am simply counting how many times I can do the exercise.[/b][/quote]

Theologically (morally) speaking, yes, it is a sin, because you knowingly continue to do something that arouses you. It is not even a matter of putting yourself in the "near occasion of sin" because, according to you, every time you engage in this particular exercises they result in an orgasm. So, as others mentioned, you should find another type of exercise that does not yield the same result.

God bless

Fr. Brian

[TeresaBenedicta]

[quote name='Theologian in Training' post='1660702' date='Sep 21 2008, 09:22 PM']Theologically (morally) speaking, yes, it is a sin, because you knowingly continue to do something that arouses you. It is not even a matter of putting yourself in the "near occasion of sin" because, according to you, every time you engage in this particular exercises they result in an orgasm. So, as others mentioned, you should find another type of exercise that does not yield the same result.

God bless

Fr. Brian[/quote]

Interesting. Even if there is no intention of arousal, it is a sin? What if it does not happen all the time, but only sometimes?

[Theologian in Training]

[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1660717' date='Sep 21 2008, 09:32 PM']Interesting. Even if there is no intention of arousal, it is a sin? What if it does not happen all the time, but only sometimes?[/quote]

If you knowingly do something that causes arousal, I find it hard to say that there is within that no intention. It is like an alcoholic walking into a bar, there is no reason for him to go there in the first place, and he knows what happens when he goes to a bar, so why do something you know will lead to sin?

[havok579257]

[quote name='Theologian in Training' post='1660914' date='Sep 22 2008, 01:33 AM']If you knowingly do something that causes arousal, I find it hard to say that there is within that no intention. It is like an alcoholic walking into a bar, there is no reason for him to go there in the first place, and he knows what happens when he goes to a bar, so why do something you know will lead to sin?[/quote]


But then what about the women who orgasm just from walking down the street wearing normal fitting jeans/pants. Should a women then NEVER wear pants? This seems to be the same situation. That she orgasms from something but her intention is not that. Is it not the same as wet dreams. I mean the intent is not there but it happens. It would seem like as long as her goal is not sexual gratification, then she should be alright. Just like I would assume a women who wears pants and orgasms when walking down the street is not sinning because her intent is not for sexual gradification.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='havok579257' post='1661010' date='Sep 22 2008, 12:34 PM']But then what about the women who orgasm just from walking down the street wearing normal fitting jeans/pants.[/quote]
Is this a common occurence?

[quote]Should a women then NEVER wear pants?[/quote]

I for one do not believe in pants

[havok579257]

[quote name='notardillacid' post='1661016' date='Sep 22 2008, 12:39 PM']Is this a common occurence?



I for one do not believe in pants [/quote]


Its not a common occurance, I consider common more than 50% of the population. Although there are many women who have an over-sensative part down there that anytime is comes into contact with something that produces friction causes orgasms. Some women have orgasms all throughout the day just from walking down the street in pants.

[Theologian in Training]

[quote name='havok579257' post='1661010' date='Sep 22 2008, 01:34 PM']But then what about the women who orgasm just from walking down the street wearing normal fitting jeans/pants. Should a women then NEVER wear pants? This seems to be the same situation. That she orgasms from something but her intention is not that. Is it not the same as wet dreams. I mean the intent is not there but it happens. It would seem like as long as her goal is not sexual gratification, then she should be alright. Just like I would assume a women who wears pants and orgasms when walking down the street is not sinning because her intent is not for sexual gradification.[/quote]

Re-read what she said. She did not say it was unintentional, she knows what she is doing before she does it.

[MissyP89]

[quote name='havok579257' post='1661025' date='Sep 22 2008, 12:47 PM']Its not a common occurance, I consider common more than 50% of the population. Although there are many women who have an over-sensative part down there that anytime is comes into contact with something that produces friction causes orgasms. Some women have orgasms all throughout the day just from walking down the street in pants.[/quote]

You go to the bathroom and you adjust. I understand women are sensitive, but that doesn't ean it's an unavoidable situation. Buying pants that have a longer leg or are looser in the crotch area is a quick fix. We don't have to wear sweatpants all the time.

[Didymus]

let's look at the heart of the question here... because just like the question i keep asking on the last page here:
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=51550&pid=1660918&st=60&#entry1660918"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s...p;#entry1660918[/url]

no one (save Socrates perhaps) is really answering the question, but rather giving suggestions, opinions, excuses, and advice..

Is it not intention in this matter that makes the act sinful?