Stephen III Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 (edited) Hi all! We've all heard the term and perhaps understand the concept behind a "Baptism of Desire". But does anyone have insight into whether or not any of the other sacraments are equally available under the same dire straits (that is imminent death). For example, could one receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation by desire if facing an imminent death and it was truly desirable. I've been told "yes" by a priest on that particular one..but what about the Eucharist? I understand the other sacrements such as marriage, or Holy Orders as they are not taught as a "necessity" of salvation. Baptism, The Sacrement of Reconciliation and The Eucharist are looked upon as somewhat an initiation into the Life of Grace and into the Family of God and can be argued as being absolutely necessary. And perhaps Extreme Unction or Last Rites could be argued as an exit conduit of Grace from the physical realm and be considered on par with the initiation-like sacraments. I would welcome any and all thoughts and/or comments.....even ones without much thought God bless Stephen Edited March 5, 2004 by Stephen III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozencell Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 Hey there! You might want to refer this question to the Catholic Question board. I think that they could help you a lot there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen III Posted March 5, 2004 Author Share Posted March 5, 2004 OOOPS! Still learning the ropes. I'll see if that helps. Thanks! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 I heard that Blessed Jacinto Marto always longed ardently to receive Holy Communion but died before she was old enough to do first Communion. The night she died she begged the hospital chaplain to give her the Eucharist saying that she was going to die that night, the priest refused insisting that she was not going to die. He was very wrong and he probably felt bad the next day. But I have reason to believe that maybe Our Lady or an Angel brought her the Eucharist before she died. It's just what I believe but I guess that means that I believe in Eucharist by desire in rare cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Saint Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Hello Stephen, I am not sure about the other sacraments but I think Reconcilation is pretty much taught as also being a sacrament of desire in cases like imminent death. This is basically what the church's teaching on perfect contrition means anyways, one can be absolved from sins apart from going to confession if they make perfect contrition (albeit one still has to go to confession in order to receive the Eucharist but we are assuming one is about to die) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen III Posted March 6, 2004 Author Share Posted March 6, 2004 Hey Justified, Thanks for the post, and good to see you made it back from the war. So far this looks like the haven for the banished, I was wondering who else would make it here. Do you know of any other less friendly forums where we can test our skin thickness? Where's Carson, Thess, Catholic Convert, Mike etc..? Welcome and God Bless from one still learning the ropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Saint Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Hey, we can be the Band of the Banned. I have seen posts by Thess and Carson here before but I don't know if they post often. So, I reckon we all got banned for the same thing: defending our beliefs when they were being attacked, what a novel concept. If you are really up for a challenge, go try Eric Svendsen's board. I think the average life span for Catholics there is like 2.333333 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Welcome to what I like to call home JS. Glad to have you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Saint Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Looks like a good place to call home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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