IcePrincessKRS Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='princessgianna' post='1641486' date='Aug 29 2008, 01:20 PM']well yea! Good point! thanks![/quote] Just doin' my job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='IcePrincessKRS' post='1641492' date='Aug 29 2008, 12:23 PM'] Another thought regarding obedience and leadership... as mother's we HAVE to be leaders within our homes. Daddy may be the head of the household but when he's off to work we can't spend our days saying "Just you wait till your father gets home!" We must lead our children, and if our husband steps out of line we have to lead him, too. Like I said in my previous post, spouses working together to help one another grow. Partners who defer to one another. When you're dating you definitely shouldn't be following the "obey" line of thought because a "mere" boyfriend should not ever be able to hold that kind of authority over your head--he hasn't earned it yet. Once he takes vows and puts that ring on your finger defer all you want, but "obey men because they are the leaders" is far too simple and strict a statement. It definitely isn't taking human nature into account--as human beings we are fallen creatures, we tend to make mistakes. Until you've put your life in that mans hands till death do you part it's in your best interests to be wary of "obeying" him. Trust, yes. Obey, not so much. I've seen too many engagements called off last minute because one party or the other turned out to be a giant turd. I mean, lucky for them they called it off before it was too late, but still... bummer that it has to happen at all.[/quote] that is another REALLY good point! thanks for those words of wisdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 hot stuff is the wisest man I know...Katie is the wisest woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Women should treat men exactly how they themselves would expect to be treated. It isn't like men are some kind of strange species or something. They are human beings. Don't make it so complicated. Mutual respect, love, compassion. I love men. I don't obey them. Well, I probably would obey a priest, but a priest has never told me to do anything. I wish my priest would order me to quit smoking. (I started again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='Deb' post='1641583' date='Aug 29 2008, 01:33 PM']I wish my priest would order me to quit smoking. (I started again) [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I know. I am weak and pathetic and really pretty mad at myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeYouThink Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) Girls should laugh at all of our bad jokes. That, and they should let us forget Anniversaries, Birth Days, Valentine's Day, the day we first kissed, the day we proposed, and well - there has to be more days out there, and any other day we they choose to make important! Edited August 29, 2008 by MakeYouThink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Like kings! Kings, I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeYouThink Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' post='1641764' date='Aug 29 2008, 02:21 PM']Like kings! Kings, I say![/quote] Agreed! It is good to be the King! [img]http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/history-of-the-world-part-i.jpg[/img] I had too, thanks for the set up! Edited August 29, 2008 by MakeYouThink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 As a soon-to-be-wife and someone who grew up in a house of men with a small army of older brothers, I'll say this: I think women need to be more straightforward with men if something is really bothering them. Too often I think we expect guys to be psychic or quickly able to pick up on the subtle nuances when we're mad about something. If he says "What's wrong?" and you say "NOTHING!!!!" ( ) In my experience they just walk away, assume you have a headache and go solder or fix something if you say that. So don't suddenly blow up at them if they don't "get it" if you haven't flat out told him what's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeYouThink Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' post='1641773' date='Aug 29 2008, 03:28 PM']As a soon-to-be-wife and someone who grew up in a house of men with a small army of older brothers, I'll say this: I think women need to be more straightforward with men if something is really bothering them. Too often I think we expect guys to be psychic or quickly able to pick up on the subtle nuances when we're mad about something. If he says "What's wrong?" and you say "NOTHING!!!!" ( ) In my experience they just walk away, assume you have a headache and go solder or fix something if you say that. So don't suddenly blow up at them if they don't "get it" if you haven't flat out told him what's wrong.[/quote] Wow! Wow! I would like that kind of girl in my life! Yeah, we're emotional simpletons! Every girl needs to read this one for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='Winchester' post='1641764' date='Aug 29 2008, 04:51 PM']Like kings! Kings, I say![/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' post='1641773' date='Aug 29 2008, 04:58 PM']Too often I think we expect guys to be psychic[/quote] And, while you're at it, don't consider yourselves psychic either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' post='1641773' date='Aug 29 2008, 03:28 PM']As a soon-to-be-wife and someone who grew up in a house of men with a small army of older brothers, I'll say this: I think women need to be more straightforward with men if something is really bothering them. Too often I think we expect guys to be psychic or quickly able to pick up on the subtle nuances when we're mad about something. If he says "What's wrong?" and you say "NOTHING!!!!" ( ) In my experience they just walk away, assume you have a headache and go solder or fix something if you say that. So don't suddenly blow up at them if they don't "get it" if you haven't flat out told him what's wrong.[/quote] Yes yes yes yes and amen. Men aren't always as intuitive and subtle in their thinking as we women are, and because of that, they don't always pick up on it when [i]we[/i] are being subtle. I continue to learn that in conversations like these: Me: "You didn't know?" Guy: "Nope." Me: "I couldn't have been more obvious!" Guy: "Nope, had no clue..." Tell it like it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbug16 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1640699' date='Aug 28 2008, 04:02 PM']From the married point of view: We need to let them be our heros. We need to let them fuss over us, open doors for us, and treat us like ladies, and make us feel safe and protected. Then they feel like they are king of the world. We in turn need to domesticate them if their mums neglected this task. We need them to know that we do need them and love them, not in words, but in actions. So give them the remote, a backrub, a good cooked meal, and loving arms at the end of the day.[/quote] Three cheers to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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