Maggyie Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1640771' date='Aug 28 2008, 07:00 PM']I don't think God would call me like that, I'm not nearly holy enough.[/quote] No one is every holy "enough." God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishSalesian Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 [quote name='Maggie' post='1640778' date='Aug 28 2008, 07:14 PM']No one is every holy "enough." God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called [/quote] SO VERY TRUE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nleyetn Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 [quote name='Maggie' post='1640778' date='Aug 28 2008, 04:14 PM']No one is every holy "enough." God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called [/quote] Well put Anyone who feels they aren't holy enough where they could be called to a vocation in the Religious life should look at Father Corapi's background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintOlaf Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I treat girls like I would treat my mother. I think it's the least I can do for them. I expect the same from my sister's boyfriends (I have no worries about the older sister, she's married and her husband is awesome). My younger sister on the other hand, has had guys mistreat her, and disrespect my mother... I dealt with that but she still seems to be a sucker for the guys that mistreat her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheling Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='SaintOlaf' post='1640990' date='Aug 28 2008, 08:28 PM']I treat girls like I would treat my mother. I think it's the least I can do for them. I expect the same from my sister's boyfriends (I have no worries about the older sister, she's married and her husband is awesome). My younger sister on the other hand, has had guys mistreat her, and disrespect my mother... I dealt with that but she still seems to be a sucker for the guys that mistreat her [/quote] You're a heroic brother! Would that more men were like that! Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeYouThink Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I treat women the same way Jesus treats me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='Aug 28 2008, 06:00 PM' post='1640771'] Again I say - "What?" Where are you getting this from? [i]It is a pretty well known fact that when men do something they do it! their entire focus is getting that particular thing done now! When women do something we do it and this and that at the same time! for example when men work on cars they work on cars! When women cook we talk with our friend on the phone and keep a eye on the children and change the laundry and set the table. It is easier for a women to multi task than a man! [/i] Why are you rolling your eyes? [i]I am just in wonder, mean no offense! [/i] I don't think God would call me like that, I'm not nearly holy enough. [i]Funny that is what Bl. Mother Teresa said![/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='HisChildForever' post='1640777' date='Aug 28 2008, 06:08 PM']But then the poster said that women are "more easily distracted" - hence confusion.[/quote] sorry for the confusion I was trying to say that women can multi task easier so we tend to do it more than we realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='pan!c139' post='1640435' date='Aug 28 2008, 01:59 PM']Equal as human beings, yes, but men are supposed to be the head of the family, and wives subordinate to their husbands. Men are the protectors. Just because you're being protected doesn't mean you're weak. [/quote] I've always been very confused by the whole "subordinate" thing. I try very hard to understand it but I see marriage as a partnership with both spouses taking on equal roles with no one being "in charge" of the other. Even if men and women are thought of as equal as human beings, doesn't putting one sex into a subordinate position in a relationship imply a natural lack of equality as an individual? -Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan!c139 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1641029' date='Aug 28 2008, 09:04 PM']I've always been very confused by the whole "subordinate" thing. I try very hard to understand it but I see marriage as a partnership with both spouses taking on equal roles with no one being "in charge" of the other. Even if men and women are thought of as equal as human beings, doesn't putting one sex into a subordinate position in a relationship imply a natural lack of equality as an individual? -Katie[/quote] We are all equal through God's eyes. Yet, at the same time, men are designed both phsycologically and physically to be the protectors. They are naturally bigger and stronger...they naturally want to give and act, as well as react with their bodies when someone they love is in danger. It's the way they're made. The woman is naturally the reciever. The woman recieves the love and protection of a man and consequently gives love to the children. Women are led more by their hearts than their heads, unlike men. So, as you can see, man and woman are VERY differently created. Their souls are equal through God's eyes, but different things are expected of them because they are created differently. Man is expected to be the protector of the woman, the head of the family; woman is expected to care for the familly, and be the heart of the family. Hopefully this helps you understand a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessgianna Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='pan!c139' post='1641041' date='Aug 28 2008, 11:13 PM']We are all equal through God's eyes. Yet, at the same time, men are designed both phsycologically and physically to be the protectors. They are naturally bigger and stronger...they naturally want to give and act, as well as react with their bodies when someone they love is in danger. It's the way they're made. The woman is naturally the reciever. The woman recieves the love and protection of a man and consequently gives love to the children. Women are led more by their hearts than their heads, unlike men. So, as you can see, man and woman are VERY differently created. Their souls are equal through God's eyes, but different things are expected of them because they are created differently. Man is expected to be the protector of the woman, the head of the family; woman is expected to care for the familly, and be the heart of the family. Hopefully this helps you understand a bit more. [/quote] very nice explanation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan!c139 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 ^ Thank you. Haha. I have been taught well...but it also helps to have the kind of mind that REALLY gets these things. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerlina Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='pan!c139' post='1641041' date='Aug 29 2008, 12:13 AM']We are all equal through God's eyes. Yet, at the same time, men are designed both phsycologically and physically to be the protectors. They are naturally bigger and stronger...they naturally want to give and act, as well as react with their bodies when someone they love is in danger. It's the way they're made. The woman is naturally the reciever. The woman recieves the love and protection of a man and consequently gives love to the children. Women are led more by their hearts than their heads, unlike men. So, as you can see, man and woman are VERY differently created. Their souls are equal through God's eyes, but different things are expected of them because they are created differently. Man is expected to be the protector of the woman, the head of the family; woman is expected to care for the familly, and be the heart of the family. Hopefully this helps you understand a bit more. [/quote] That is a very good explanation and I do definitely understand the differences. I just still don't totally get why the subordination? Protecting is one thing but being "in charge" of another person is another? -Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 [quote name='princessgianna' post='1640724' date='Aug 28 2008, 04:39 PM']a teenage girls insurance is lower than a teenage guys because woman are known to be more careful while driving. We tend to hold onto our head when we drive (unless of course there is a really good sale lol!!!)[/quote] Wow. Wow. Wow, wow, wow: wowowow; wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan!c139 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Tinkerlina' post='1641055' date='Aug 28 2008, 09:22 PM']That is a very good explanation and I do definitely understand the differences. I just still don't totally get why the subordination? Protecting is one thing but being "in charge" of another person is another? -Katie[/quote] I don't think, in this context, subordination means being in charge of someone per se. (Not more important than the other person either.) I don't think it means, "you have to do what I say or else". I just think the subordination means that the wife must respect their husband's decisions as head of the family - that doesn't necessarily mean she has no input, they should make decisions together. This is a very difficult issue to understand and one of the most discussed passages of the Bible! Edited August 29, 2008 by pan!c139 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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