the_rev Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 I couldn't believe this when I read it... Post your comments! Kerry Wins Democratic Nomination, Will Promote Abortion as President by Steven Ertelt LifeNews.com Editor March 3, 2004 Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- After a multi-state primary on Tuesday, Massachusetts senator John Kerry put the icing on the cake in the contest to obtain the Democratic nomination for president. Should he defeat President Bush in November, Kerry says the first thing he will do as president is overturn a pro-life foreign policy that prevents taxpayer funding of abortions overseas. Kerry won nine out of the ten states that were up for grabs on Tuesday and pro-abortion Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, Kerry's main opponent, said he will officially leave the race on Wednesday. Meanwhile, in their last debate, prior to Tuesday's primary, Kerry said his first action as president will be to overturn Bush's Mexico City Policy. First instituted by President Reagan in 1984, the pro-life foreign policy prevents taxpayer money from going to groups that promote or perform abortions in other countries. On his first day in office, President Bush reinstated the policy after former president Bill Clinton had canceled it during his eight years in office. Pro-life leaders say Bush deserves to be re-elected because of his strong pro-life record and that the stark contrast between Bush's pro-life views and Kerry's support for abortion will motivate pr-life advocates to turn out at the polls in November. Richard Land, of the Southern Baptist Convention, says George Bush has been "the most pro-life and pro-family president in my lifetime." "Right now, the president is poised to have a very strong voter turnout among Southern Baptists and other evangelicals this November," Land told Newshouse News Service. Meanwhile, Ralph Reed, the former executive director of the Christian Coalition, said that pro-life advocates won't let Kerry win and topple the pro-life gains that have been made under the Bush administration. "We will identify who are our strongest supporters and contact them by phone and by mail and door-to-door to turn them out in record numbers," Reed told NNS. A national poll shows Bush's pro-life views will give him an advantage over Kerry. A poll by Rasmussen Reports shows that President Bush gains a four-point advantage on the abortion issue. But abortion advocates are motivated to remove Bush from office and NARAL has launched an effort to raise $25 million to defeat him. "In addition to their clear drive to criminalize abortion, there has been no opportunity of which I'm aware that they have not taken to restrict women's rights and to oppose reproductive freedom," Gloria Steinem, a leading abortion advocate, said in a recent interview. Meanwhile, NARAL's Kate Michelman vouches for Kerry's pro-abortion background. "Even on the most difficult issues, we've never had to worry about John Kerry's position," Michelman said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 I don't like abortion and the only way to end it will be through the courts. I will be voting for Kerry this fall. I don't like Bush's policies on so many things on so many levels. Bush lies to the American people and is playing the whole 9/11 card too much. I don't like the whole Iraq war thing. That war was not just and we were streched thin before the war. Now we have revestis and Natl Guard troops on the front line, which is not something they are trained for. Bush is too cowboy gung-ho for me. Plus, I don't think that it matters who is pres. on the whole abortion matter. If it did the whole problem would have died a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rev Posted March 5, 2004 Author Share Posted March 5, 2004 I'm gonna have to disagree with you beloning to the Republican Party! I will post more later, with my thoughts after more people post, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Mar 4 2004, 09:07 PM'] I don't like abortion and the only way to end it will be through the courts. I will be voting for Kerry this fall. I don't like Bush's policies on so many things on so many levels. Bush lies to the American people and is playing the whole 9/11 card too much. I don't like the whole Iraq war thing. That war was not just and we were streched thin before the war. Now we have revestis and Natl Guard troops on the front line, which is not something they are trained for. Bush is too cowboy gung-ho for me. Plus, I don't think that it matters who is pres. on the whole abortion matter. If it did the whole problem would have died a long time ago. [/quote] I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you, Iacobus. Without Bush, pro-life legislation would be going nowhere. There wouldn't be the partial-birth abortion ban, for one thing. Also, if someone like Kerry were president, he'd use his special power of a veto to reject any form of pro-life legislation. The issue wouldn't have died a long time ago, nor would it if Kerry were president. Remember, the next president will potentially appoint Supreme Court and other court justices. If Kerry wins, he would just ensure that pro-abortion justices would be there. and that would be really bad. I believe that if a candidate does not have respect for the most basic of human rights, then I cannot trust them to run my country. [quote]"Even on the most difficult issues, we've never had to worry about John Kerry's position," Michelman said.[/quote] That freaks me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 Yeh I am a dem who votes both ways, lol. Just rember that the senate has to confrim the noms for the courts. So far they have proven that they are good at stopping the noms by Bush with a dem miniority. So the Reps could stop any extremist from Kerry. Checks and balnces. I consdier the right to life a human right and want it supported. Don't get me wrong. But I also think that peace and dipolmicy are human rights too. Bush has been too quick to disregard the UN. I also think that a surivable enviroment is a basic right as well. And I think that gobal warming and over use of oil is a problem. And pulling us out of the ABM treaty. That made the world happy. It is just that I agree with Kerry's stand more than I do with Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Mar 4 2004, 09:25 PM'] Just rember that the senate has to confrim the noms for the courts. So far they have proven that they are good at stopping the noms by Bush with a dem miniority. So the Reps could stop any extremist from Kerry. Checks and balnces. [/quote] The current Senate seems to me awfully extremist, by not confirming so many of Bush's good appointees, appointees who have excellent credentials. The issue they seem to have with the appointees is that they are pro-life, and appointed by Bush. It makes me wonder then, if they would not welcome with open arms Kerry's appointees who would only wish to preserve Roe v. Wade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 What is happening is a filabuster. They take 60 votes to break. And the senate is pretty even, so no one can really get anything through it. The Reps have enough to make a filabuster but rarely get enough to break one. Same with the Dems. I am kind of happy with the even senate becasue it prevents any extreme bills from making it through. But thats just me. Please understand I am disagreeing with respect. I will not attack with ptless ad homen thing. And I think that no one else will bow to that level. Also rember I WANT Roe v Wade overturned, but I think it has to be done by the courts. I think abortion is a horrible thing but so are all those other things I listed. We, the USA, can't act unilateral and do whatever we want if we want ANY international respect at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Mar 4 2004, 09:36 PM'] Also rember I WANT Roe v Wade overturned, but I think it has to be done by the courts. I think abortion is a horrible thing but so are all those other things I listed. We, the USA, can't act unilateral and do whatever we want if we want ANY international respect at all. [/quote] I know that. I'm not trying to accuse you of anything. And yes, it's the courts that have to overturn Roe. I'm just trying to point some things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 Yeh I understand. I was just kind of scared that you would think that I was a pro-abortion person. I am defintiy not a pro-abortion person. I just argh. I don't really like Bush's stance on SO many issues. I am also turned off by neg. ads and people who are exploting 9/11. I have seen a negtive ad online from Bush and have heard that his 1st waves are upseting people that lost family in the attacks becasue of the images his campagin used that showed 9/11. I don't know. I wish there was someone who fit all my cretia but it kind of stradles the party lines. Maybe someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary's Knight, La Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 quoted from Iacobus [quote]I consdier the right to life a human right and want it supported. Don't get me wrong. But I also think that peace and dipolmicy are human rights too. [/quote] What do worldly peace and diplomacy matter to the innocent dead? The fact of the matter is peace and diplomacy are secondary or tertiary rights being dependant at least on the right to life. If Kerry cannot recognize and protect the right of all humans especially those living in the womb to live, how can he claim to protect their rights to peace or diplomacy as both become a moot point when the doctor disects the baby who would want to enjoy them? If Kerry and his cohorts are currently stopping the confirmation of those who would protect the most basic human right, then it's a short step to figure out that he and his friends will do their best to get those who will deny this right nominated and confirmed. I'm not saying to make this a 1 issue election but let's make sure they have the first issue right before moving on to the next and for the first issue you have to choose the most basic which is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 This is what is to be expected of satan's party. kerry's party's contribution to the USA... [list] [*]baby murder [*]birth control [*]porn [*]ssa marriage [*]anti-God legislation [*]No prayer in schools [*]etc.... [/list] -ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Mar 4 2004, 09:07 PM'] I don't like abortion and the only way to end it will be through the courts. I will be voting for Kerry this fall. I don't like Bush's policies on so many things on so many levels. Bush lies to the American people and is playing the whole 9/11 card too much. I don't like the whole Iraq war thing. That war was not just and we were streched thin before the war. Now we have revestis and Natl Guard troops on the front line, which is not something they are trained for. Bush is too cowboy gung-ho for me. Plus, I don't think that it matters who is pres. on the whole abortion matter. If it did the whole problem would have died a long time ago. [/quote] I'm a Dem and I feel the same way and before someone whips out the Gospel of Life let me say that I agree with you. Abortion Laws were authored and prospered under the guise of Republican administrations for 20 years and when we were so close to overturning Roe v. Wade in the late 80s, it was a Republican conservative Catholic SC Justice who changed his mind at the last minute. As of right now I'm undecided who to vote for but I'm leaning towards Bush because my former archbishop might excommunicate me if I vote otherwise - he has threatened the public in previous elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 What I am worried about is the world we bring these childern into. If we are at constant war with other nations, if nuclear war breaks out with North Korea or between Pakastan and India, will there be a world left? We can't just neglect all other aspects of the dynamic world that we live in and foucs in all on one issue. We need a multi pronged pres. We need someone who will make peace and not engage in unjust wars. One that will protect ALL the RIGHTS of ALL PEOPLE, unborn, young, old, dying. One that will make a world safe for life and let ALL life come into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 M.SIGGA, I like to see that I am not alone here. I was scared I was for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Mar 4 2004, 10:18 PM'] This is what is to be expected of satan's party. [/quote] hilarious .... really. Before praising the mighty works and wonders of the Republican Party consider that Jesus mentioned "spitting out the Lukewarm" for a reason in the Gospel because there are many who will be duped in this lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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