For The Gentleman: Do We Have It Better?

[J.P.]

[quote name='StColette' post='1639550' date='Aug 27 2008, 12:03 PM']Careful lol those girls who have a strong sense of wanting a career can also have a strong sense of wanting to be a mom So don't jump to any conclusions too quickly.[/quote]

Touche. That's some good advice.


[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1639559' date='Aug 27 2008, 12:15 PM']Agreed. It's not really fair for this to be a black and white issue: a woman is either a full-time career woman or a full-time mom?

Edit: That's like saying a man is only full-time worker or full-time father. If a man can be both, why can't a woman be both?[/quote]

I don't have a definate answer for you. I'm not a professional on the matter, but it would seem that a child clings to their mother more than any other person, father included. A child needs his/her mother more than anything and for a woman to give 100% of their attention to that is, I believe, healthy for both the child and the mother. Thus, the whole family benefits.

That's just an observation. Obviously, I'll never be a mom. Although, as a former child , I know what it's like needing my mother and how it differs from needing my dad. I still need my dad, but not like I needed mom.

You could call me a momma's boy. I have no problem with that.

Edited August 27, 2008 by J.P.

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I'm a daddy's girl. Me luvs Dada. (not that I don't love my mother )

[J.P.]

[quote name='pan!c139' post='1639569' date='Aug 27 2008, 12:29 PM']I'm a daddy's girl. Me luvs Dada. (not that I don't love my mother )[/quote]

Daddy's girls aint so bad either.

[HisChildForever]

[quote]I don't have a definate answer for you. I'm not a professional on the matter, but it would seem that a child clings to their mother more than any other person, father included. A child needs his/her mother more than anything and for a woman to give 100% of their attention to that is, I believe, healthy for both the child and the mother. Thus, the whole family benefits.[/quote]

That sort of lessens the father's importance.

[mommas_boy]

[quote name='J.P.' post='1639566' date='Aug 27 2008, 01:28 PM']I don't have a definate answer for you. I'm not a professional on the matter, but it would seem that a child clings to their mother more than any other person, father included. A child needs his/her mother more than anything and for a woman to give 100% of their attention to that is, I believe, healthy for both the child and the mother. Thus, the whole family benefits.

That's just an observation. Obviously, I'll never be a mom. Although, as a former child , I know what it's like needing my mother and how it differs from needing my dad. I still need my dad, but not like I needed mom.[/quote]

I don't think that your observation nuances the issue anywhere near enough. For instance, boys have been shown to be more masculine when they are provided large amounts of [b]physical affection[/b] from their fathers (paraphrasing Phil Mango here).

A family is not about who can do what better; it is about "synergy" -- everyone coming together to produce an effect greater than the sum of the individual contributions: 1+1=3.

[quote name='J.P.' post='1639566' date='Aug 27 2008, 01:28 PM']You could call me a momma's boy. I have no problem with that. [/quote]

But I do. If you call him a momma's boy, I sue.

That's it. I'm changing my name to "mommas_boy©".

[mommas_boy]

[quote name='mommas_boy' post='1640144' date='Aug 28 2008, 12:15 AM']1+1=3.[/quote]

Hmm. This is also a good synopsis of both trinitarian theology, as well as the mystery of the marital act that was designed to image it.

[J.P.]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1640137' date='Aug 27 2008, 11:03 PM']That sort of lessens the father's importance. [/quote]

See I don't think that it does. I should have mentioned that each role is [b]infinately important[/b] and dependant on their spouse.

I just think that women have a certain touch with kids

[J.P.]

[quote name='mommas_boy' post='1640144' date='Aug 27 2008, 11:15 PM']I don't think that your observation nuances the issue anywhere near enough. For instance, boys have been shown to be more masculine when they are provided large amounts of [b]physical affection[/b] from their fathers (paraphrasing Phil Mango here).

A family is not about who can do what better; it is about "synergy" -- everyone coming together to produce an effect greater than the sum of the individual contributions: 1+1=3.[/quote]

Obviously it was a gross oversimplification. The issue is infinately complex to the point that I do not believe that we as humans will ever understand it fully. A mustard seed of understanding would be plenty

The point that I was trying to draw attention to was the mystery of the relationship between mother and child. Not to denounce the importance of the father's role, but that the mother's bond with child is [b]incredible[/b]! I could simply not imagine carrying a child in my womb for 9 months, then nurse the child and so fourth....(insert motherly roles here).

I like your points though, and as I mentioned above, I think that each spouses role is dependant on the other.

And I love the 1+1=3. That's deadly.

Edited August 28, 2008 by J.P.