First Feminists Were Also Pro-life

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
[url="http://www.feministsforlife.org/history/foremoth.htm"]Check out some great quotes courtesy of Feminists for Life[/url]
[u][b]Susan B. Anthony[/b][/u]
In her publication The Revolution, was written:
[i]"Guilty? Yes. No matter what the motive, love of ease, or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent, the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed. It will burden her conscience in life, it will burden her soul in death; But oh, thrice guilty is he who drove her to the desperation which impelled her to the crime!"[/i]

[i]"All the articles on this subject that I have read have been from men. They denounce women as alone guilty, and never include man in any plans for the remedy."[/i]
The Revolution, 4(1):4 July 8, 1869

[u][b]Elizabeth Cady Stanton[/b][/u]
[i]"When we consider that women are treated as property, it is degrading to women that we should treat our children as property to be disposed of as we see fit."[/i]

[u][b]Emma Goldman[/b][/u]
[i]"The custom of procuring abortions has reached such appalling proportions in America as to be beyond belief...So great is the misery of the working classes that seventeen abortions are committed in every one hundred pregnancies."[/i]
Mother Earth, 1911

[u][b]Alice Paul[/b][/u]
The author of the original Equal Rights Amendment (1923) opposed the later trend of linking the E.R.A. with abortion. A colleague recalls her saying:
[i]"Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women."[/i]

[CatherineM]

I had an great aunt who was a suffragette at the turn of the century. She was a haberdasher. I have her gold pocket watch that was worn as a pendant as a badge of honor. See, women who never left the house didn't need a watch because they'd have a grandfather clock or wall clock at home to tell them them the time. My Great-grandfather was NYPD, and kept having to bail her out after a demonstration. Those early feminists were protesting to vote, to be allowed to enter buildings or take certain jobs. They weren't about killing children. I agree with the post that "Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women."

[desertwoman]

Yep they sure were. That's why I find it funny that modern feminists believe that if you are not pro abortion, then you are not a feminist.

[Vincent Vega]

I do not align with the modern feminist movement at all, but I do love Miss Suzy B.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='desertwoman' post='1638839' date='Aug 26 2008, 02:22 PM']Yep they sure were. That's why I find it funny that modern feminists believe that if you are not pro abortion, then you are not a feminist.[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
that's why i like Feminists for Life

[rachael]

I remember arguing about Elizabeth Cady Stanton in high school to people who were pro choice. It always sh[font="Arial"]ut[/font] them up.

Edited August 27, 2008 by rachael

[Madame Vengier]

Those quotes are awesome! Those were real feminists. They didn't want to hand babies to nannies or take the jobs that men do or burn their bras. They just wanted equal rights as human beings and to be valued as women. We are a looooooooooong way from this original feminism.

[desertwoman]

word. We are very far away from true feminism, and you won't hear about it at a NOW meeting.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='desertwoman' post='1639405' date='Aug 27 2008, 08:15 AM']word. We are very far away from true feminism, and you won't hear about it at a NOW meeting.[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
precisely.

[StColette]

I believe Pope John Paul II actually mentions some of these women in some of the writings/speeches he did about real Feminism.

[geetarplayer]

My sister did a paper on this, and she noted that "first-wave" feminists were all very pro-life. They understood that abortion would only hurt women, not liberate or empower them.

[StColette]

[quote name='geetarplayer' post='1639667' date='Aug 27 2008, 03:11 PM']My sister did a paper on this, and she noted that "first-wave" feminists were all very pro-life. They understood that abortion would only hurt women, not liberate or empower them.[/quote]

Wish all women could understand that abortion only hurts women instead of liberate or empower them. And it is the case, in most abortions, that the women are very hurt by what they've done and aren't quite ever themselves again.

[Balthazor]

Gee Red this is a good thread.
More people should read it! SO

*BUMP*

Up it goes.

[princessgianna]

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1638686' date='Aug 26 2008, 12:53 PM']+J.M.J.+
[url="http://www.feministsforlife.org/history/foremoth.htm"]Check out some great quotes courtesy of Feminists for Life[/url]
[u][b]Susan B. Anthony[/b][/u]
In her publication The Revolution, was written:
[i]"Guilty? Yes. No matter what the motive, love of ease, or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent, the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed. It will burden her conscience in life, it will burden her soul in death; But oh, thrice guilty is he who drove her to the desperation which impelled her to the crime!"[/i]

[i]"All the articles on this subject that I have read have been from men. They denounce women as alone guilty, and never include man in any plans for the remedy."[/i]
The Revolution, 4(1):4 July 8, 1869

[u][b]Elizabeth Cady Stanton[/b][/u]
[i]"When we consider that women are treated as property, it is degrading to women that we should treat our children as property to be disposed of as we see fit."[/i]

[u][b]Emma Goldman[/b][/u]
[i]"The custom of procuring abortions has reached such appalling proportions in America as to be beyond belief...So great is the misery of the working classes that seventeen abortions are committed in every one hundred pregnancies."[/i]
Mother Earth, 1911

[u][b]Alice Paul[/b][/u]
The author of the original Equal Rights Amendment (1923) opposed the later trend of linking the E.R.A. with abortion. A colleague recalls her saying:
[i]"Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women."[/i][/quote]

interesting!

[Groo the Wanderer]

May I also point out that our next VP, God willing, is a member of Feminists for Life.

yay for Sarah Palin!



Another FFL quote, but donno who said it...



"Pro-life Feminist is not an oxymoron..it's redundant."

Edited August 30, 2008 by Groo the Wanderer