The Filioque

[Resurrexi]

I just wanted to say how much I love the Filioque. The spiration of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son as from a single principle is such an awesome dogma! I'm so glad that it was added to the Nicene-Constantinoplitan Creed.

[Apotheoun]

[qfnol31]

I love the Holy Ecumenical Council of Florence.

Edited August 24, 2008 by qfnol31

[Apotheoun]

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='qfnol31' post='1636135' date='Aug 23 2008, 09:37 PM']I love the Holy Ecumenical Council of Florence. [/quote]

Same here! Definitely one of my favorite Ecumenical Councils

Edited August 24, 2008 by StThomasMore

[Brigid]

[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1633779' date='Aug 21 2008, 05:23 PM']I just wanted to say how much I love the Filioque. The spiration of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son as from a single principle is such an awesome dogma! I'm so glad that it was added to the Nicene-Constantinoplitan Creed.[/quote]
[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1636249' date='Aug 24 2008, 12:18 AM']Same here! Definitely one of my favorite Ecumenical Councils [/quote]
this, right here, is why I love this place.

where else do you find people saying things like this???

it makes me happy.

[Vincent Vega]

Don't slay me, but I can actually see both sides (Catholic and Orthodox) on this matter.

[Aloysius]

yeah, a good reasonable Catholic can see both sides, of course.

for instance, I love STM and qfol's sentiments, and also totally understand Apo's resounding laughter and shock smileys

[Vincent Vega]

Do the eastern Catholics say it like we do or like they do?

[abercius24]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1636334' date='Aug 24 2008, 01:16 AM']Do the eastern Catholics say it like we do or like they do?[/quote]

They do not include the Filioque in their Creed. That is not part of the Divine Liturgy (their mass).

Edited August 24, 2008 by abercius24

[qfnol31]

[quote name='Aloysius' post='1636328' date='Aug 24 2008, 12:08 AM']yeah, a good reasonable Catholic can see both sides, of course.

for instance, I love STM and qfol's sentiments, and also totally understand Apo's resounding laughter and shock smileys [/quote]

LoL, yes...I was looking to get another smiley out of him!

[N/A Gone]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1636295' date='Aug 24 2008, 12:42 AM']Don't slay me, but I can actually see both sides (Catholic and Orthodox) on this matter.[/quote]


[quote name='Aloysius' post='1636328' date='Aug 24 2008, 01:08 AM']yeah, a good reasonable Catholic can see both sides, of course.

for instance, I love STM and qfol's sentiments, and also totally understand Apo's resounding laughter and shock smileys [/quote]

exactly. I think a proper view of the trinity will require both sides working together. I did write a paper on the subject. I do not think we can "blend" them because it would create serious problems, if anything we need to understand the trinity first as mystery and then understand two parts that appear conflicting, but are possibly apostolic, if not patristic, in nature.

[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=77862"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=77862[/url]

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='abercius24' post='1636505' date='Aug 24 2008, 05:29 AM']They do not include the Filioque in their Creed. That is not part of the Divine Liturgy (their mass).[/quote]

However, if an Eastern Christian is Catholic, he does profess the dogma of the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son as from a single principle.

[N/A Gone]

oh rly?

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1636571' date='Aug 24 2008, 09:35 AM']However, if an Eastern Christian is Catholic, he does profess the dogma of the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son as from a single principle.[/quote]
So I just got two answers.
Which is it? Do the Eastern Catholics include it or not?