Dispensing Birth Control = Sin?

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Balthazor' post='1628734' date='Aug 16 2008, 11:30 AM']It was the[b] ONLY [/b]thing that worked for my acne..... I had tried everything and went to three or four different doctors and literally tried everything. I went on anibiotics that gave me diarreah and made me sick, tried every cream on the market, one of them gave me second degree burns..... I am sorry that my body ONLY responded to this treatment, mea culpa. But this was it, I was getting some pretty nasty scarring from the acne, and my skin was always sore. I wanted to stop being "the ugly girl", and having a perpetually sore back, face and back of the legs.

As for my foundation.... I think I needed some more morter in mine because when I started the pill my emotions stablized, my periods stabilized, for the first time in my life I did not have to ALWAYS worry about sudden spontaneous bleeding and my acne cleared up completly, it was the only thing that cleared up my acne. Of course I still have scars from the years I just tried to deal with it, but I am happy because now I can look someone in the eye. Little kids don't ask me if I have chicken pox, and teenagers don't tell me I have bad hygeine because of my skin.

I was not dating, did not date, was not enticted into sex because of the pill. What is the problem?

I have a lot of doctors in my family they all condone it for my purposes, one is in ultra-sound the other is general practice, my brother is currently applying for med school my mom is a registered nurse and so is my aunt. I have done the research on it for websites for and against it, I know many people who have been on it for years (non-Catholic) and have had no problem conceiving.

Really there is little chance of a problem in reality, I don't smoke and have non of the risk factors. So if anything does happen I say it was meant to be.[/quote]
I think it's a bit different when you've tried everything else, gone to various doctors, and this is the only treatment available that will work for you. I don't really see a problem when it's truly the only treatment that will work. My problem is when there are other treatments, and the doctors don't prescribe them because the pill is just easier.

[quote name='Balthazor' post='1628734' date='Aug 16 2008, 11:30 AM']The real challenge will be if I ever do get married ( ha ha ha ha like that ever is gonna happen) and I get to try and play geuss when the period is coming. I won't even really have the option to practive NFP if I wanted to because of it. But that is a long way off if it ever happens, which I doubt. So in the mean time I am not gonna worry.[/quote]
Quick note, but having irregular periods is not at all a problem with NFP. I'm by no means regular in that department, and can track my fertility with Billings without a problem.

[Balthazor]

Good to Know Archeology kitty-Cat! Thanks for the education

I don't really study NFP my sister practices it so I know a few basics but from what I understand of it, really if you can afford to have kids then you should not even try to prevent them.... so I geuss that until I am so absoliutley destitute that I can't feed myself or it turns out that I have a very serious genetic illness I should not even worry about it... which leads to my selective ignorance. That and the whole not being married and stuff......


I feel like a really bad Catholic woman though because I really don't like or want kids. I know I should.... but what can I say I am a failure as a woman.

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Balthazor' post='1628776' date='Aug 16 2008, 02:05 PM']Good to Know Archeology kitty-Cat! Thanks for the education

I don't really study NFP my sister practices it so I know a few basics but from what I understand of it, really if you can afford to have kids then you should not even try to prevent them.... so I geuss that until I am so absoliutley destitute that I can't feed myself or it turns out that I have a very serious genetic illness I should not even worry about it... which leads to my selective ignorance. That and the whole not being married and stuff......


I feel like a really bad Catholic woman though because I really don't like or want kids. I know I should.... but what can I say I am a failure as a woman.[/quote]
You are definitely not a failure! Before I had Kieran, I didn't really like being around babies & kids a whole lot. I mean, small doses fine, but didn't want to be around them all the time. But it's so much different with having my own child. We have lots o' fun together.

And I didn't know anything about NFP until right before we got married, and then just an overview until about a year into the marriage.

[mommas_boy]

[quote name='Balthazor' post='1628734' date='Aug 16 2008, 06:30 AM']It was the[b] ONLY [/b]thing that worked for my acne..... I had tried everything and went to three or four different doctors and literally tried everything. I went on anibiotics that gave me diarreah and made me sick, tried every cream on the market, one of them gave me second degree burns..... I am sorry that my body ONLY responded to this treatment, mea culpa. But this was it, I was getting some pretty nasty scarring from the acne, and my skin was always sore. I wanted to stop being "the ugly girl", and having a perpetually sore back, face and back of the legs.

As for my foundation.... I think I needed some more morter in mine because when I started the pill my emotions stablized, my periods stabilized, for the first time in my life I did not have to ALWAYS worry about sudden spontaneous bleeding and my acne cleared up completly, it was the only thing that cleared up my acne. Of course I still have scars from the years I just tried to deal with it, but I am happy because now I can look someone in the eye. Little kids don't ask me if I have chicken pox, and teenagers don't tell me I have bad hygeine because of my skin.

I was not dating, did not date, was not enticted into sex because of the pill. What is the problem?

I have a lot of doctors in my family they all condone it for my purposes, one is in ultra-sound the other is general practice, my brother is currently applying for med school my mom is a registered nurse and so is my aunt. I have done the research on it for websites for and against it, I know many people who have been on it for years (non-Catholic) and have had no problem conceiving.

Really there is little chance of a problem in reality, I don't smoke and have non of the risk factors. So if anything does happen I say it was meant to be.

The real challenge will be if I ever do get married ( ha ha ha ha like that ever is gonna happen) and I get to try and play geuss when the period is coming. I won't even really have the option to practive NFP if I wanted to because of it. But that is a long way off if it ever happens, which I doubt. So in the mean time I am not gonna worry.[/quote]

Balthazor, by no means did I intend to rule out hormonal contraceptives for medical purposes. Instead, I meant to strongly caution against their use. Frankly, anything that messes with the body at such a fundamental level scares me. You are also right that there is nothing about using hormones for medical purposes that is immoral. I just think that all other methods need to be exhausted first.

You mentioned that your foundation needed more mortar. You may be right, in your case. It seems to me that your acne and irregular periods are not themselves the problems, but are rather the symptoms of a more fundamental problem. Hormonal treatments like those available through oral contraceptives would definitely be a leading option.

I am familiar with an alternative method for the problems that you described, but I can't remember the name of it. It is compared to NFP in that it is entirely natural, but it can't be used for family planning. Instead, its purpose is to deal with hormonal problems. Maybe someone else here knows the name? I heard some of the male FOCUS missionaries at my University talking about the girls being on it, but I never, uh, got up the courage to confront the women about it and learn more.

[mortify]

Yes, so can a pharmacist be a good Catholic and still dispense birth control and Plan B?

Phorum scholars wanna chime in?

Edited August 16, 2008 by mortify

[Archaeology cat]

Well, if it can be moral for a woman to take birth control, then it can also be moral to dispense it. I personally would draw the line at Plan B, because I can't see a moral reason to ever take it, but I'm no expert.