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[quote name='KOIfriend' post='1621580' date='Aug 8 2008, 02:34 PM']Are you going to appologize for what you said in ignorance or not?[/quote]


I believe you owe Americans an apology, because the person who set you off in this thread and who you quoted (Nihil) is one of your fellow Canadians.

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dominicansoul

I'm remembering now a Canadian priest who came to visit the Nashville Dominicans. And he almost nearly bit our Superior's head off when she mistakenly asked him if he was from New York!

From all these experiences, I can make the generalization that most Canadians have bitter issues against the U.S.A. And frankly, I wasn't very impressed with them because of this...

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[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1621596' date='Aug 9 2008, 03:41 AM']From all these experiences, I can make the generalization that most Canadians have bitter issues against the U.S.A. And frankly, I wasn't very impressed with them because of this...[/quote]
Seriously. If someone decided to come into my country to spew this croutons I would probably slap them, religious or not.

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Vincent Vega

[quote name='KOIfriend' post='1621575' date='Aug 8 2008, 01:32 PM']And there's a beam in my eye too.

But, to say that America is more godly than Canada, you have to give your head a shake. Neither are more or less godly than the other. You guys only create that illusion in your head to justify your corruption right now, and it's coming down around you now.[/quote]
I've never contested that...and neither has anyone else in this thread, unless I'm mistaken. We've got plenty of unGodly people and policies (look at R v. W!), but I believe that we still have more civil liberties, such as the right to practice our, and any, religion freely, and certain Christian principles, such as barring of gay marriage in the vast majority of our cities, than in Canada (look at the Canadian 'Human Rights' Commission, for instance). Is this your fault? No. But you can't deny that Canada is certainly more secularist than the USA.

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[quote name='Justin86' post='1621584' date='Aug 8 2008, 03:35 PM']Since when is that an ignorant statement? You must just be ignorant of your country's own laws.[/quote]

What you just said doesn't make sense.

She didn't know we had a charter of rights and freedoms, and therefore she said we had no basic human rights, but we do, so it would be nice if she appologized and said, oh, I didn't know that, instead of making excuses.

Justin, please read more before you post, because your post doesn't make much sense.

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[quote name='KOIfriend' post='1621580' date='Aug 9 2008, 03:34 AM']Are you going to appologize for what you said in ignorance or not?

And what about a couple in America who were physically assaulted by policemen for having a Ron Paul, Only Hope for America Sign.
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kU8ZbMYgyc"]Ron Paul video one[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oq7DNwn0HM&NR=1"]Ron Paul video two[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FveakH8b7BE&feature=related"]Ron Paul Video three[/url]
[url="http://www.mountainx.com/news/2007/flagged_down_activists_arrested_in_row_oprotest_flag_allege_abuse_by_bu"]Flagged Down: Activists arrested in row over protest flag, allege abuse by Buncombe deputy[/url]

So, your country respects freedom of speech just as much as Canada does. Wow![/quote]
Ok, assuming the only issue really was the Ron Paul sign (which I doubt, although I didn't watch the video), the point is it's still illegal in the US and they have every right to appeal to the courts to be overturned. Now in Canada if you condemn homosexual actions you have no recourse whatsoever as it's the law that you can't.

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[quote name='KOIfriend' post='1621604' date='Aug 9 2008, 03:45 AM']What you just said doesn't make sense.

She didn't know we had a charter of rights and freedoms, and therefore she said we had no basic human rights, but we do, so it would be nice if she appologized and said, oh, I didn't know that, instead of making excuses.

Justin, please read more before you post, because your post doesn't make much sense.[/quote]
Just because you have a document saying you recognize God doesn't mean Canada really does. Canada really doesn't have basic human rights as you can't condemn homosexual actions. Her argument still stands.

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IcePrincessKRS

[quote name='KOIfriend' post='1621575' date='Aug 8 2008, 03:32 PM']But, to say that America is more godly than Canada, you have to give your head a shake. Neither are more or less godly than the other. You guys only create that illusion in your head to justify your corruption right now, and it's coming down around you now.[/quote]

NO ONE said that.

[quote name='KOIfriend' post='1621580' date='Aug 8 2008, 03:34 PM']Are you going to appologize for what you said in ignorance or not?[/quote]

Are you going to?

[quote name='StColette' post='1621585' date='Aug 8 2008, 03:35 PM']I believe you owe Americans an apology, because the person who set you off in this thread and who you quoted (Nihil) is one of your fellow Canadians.[/quote]

Amen. She's pointed out that the person who you quoted in your first post is Canadian at least three times now. THREE. Count 'em. Are you going to acknowledge StColette or just keep ignoring her and make more posts bashing Americans?

We're not perfect but if you seriously think anyone who's posted in this thread owes you an apology (I don't think they do, btw) you better step up and say you're sorry for your own errors, too.

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hey this is coming from a fellow canadian, KOIfriend.
Stop. You are making us Canadians look bad.

sure you have plenty of reasons to dislike america, and the stereotypical american(they aren't all the same you know) but that is no reason to make personal attacks on people you dont know, about things that have really nothing to do with you. all you have succeeded in doing here, is making canadians come off as people with bad grammar and who blindly hate a whole group of people(that arent really much different from us).

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dominicansoul

[quote name='Justin86' post='1621600' date='Aug 8 2008, 01:43 PM']Seriously. If someone decided to come into my country to spew this croutons I would probably slap them, religious or not.[/quote]


I would usually just ask them, "If you hate America so much, why are you here? There aren't any convents in Canada?" Which they didn't have an answer to. Apparently, none of the Dominican convents in Canada are as awesome as Ann Arbor's OR Nashville's.

And most of us sisters tolerated their comments. But once, I had to speak out against it, and let them know that they (the Canadians) were being very un-Christlike and extremely uncharitable. I felt they were putting their national pride ahead of their obligation to charity.

You are right, no one should come into our country and start spewing this garbage. But because this is America, they have every right to do it.

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[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1621601' date='Aug 8 2008, 03:43 PM']I've never contested that...and neither has anyone else in this thread, unless I'm mistaken. We've got plenty of unGodly people and policies (look at R v. W!), but I believe that we still have more civil liberties, such as the right to practice our, and any, religion freely, and certain Christian principles, such as barring of gay marriage in the vast majority of our cities, than in Canada (look at the Canadian 'Human Rights' Commission, for instance). Is this your fault? No. But you can't deny that Canada is certainly more secularist than the USA.[/quote]

It's not the nation's government that makes it more godly, but the people. So, we need to start standing up more to make sure we stand for righteousness. I have all the freedom and liberties I need, because I no longer listen to the world. The world can go kiss my buttocks. I say don't think it is a big deal to love Homosexuals, who are our enemies, by saying, you are living wrong. If they want to get me fired for saying that, let them. I don't think it is a big deal to be friends with an atheist, while saying, it's a shame you don't believe in God because you're not going to like what happens after you die.

Rights and freedoms is up to us. I push the envelope all the time because I don't care what the law says, and neither should any other child of God.

The point is, I am tired of hearing how America is more godly than my country, because it isn't. You have a spiritual pride. And yes, Canada has the same laws as you do. It's not that bad. I haven't heard many preachers being arrested or fined for not marrying a gay couple. And at the same time, there are plenty of RC politicians in our country, and many of our prime-ministers are Catholic. Did you know that. Trudeau, Turner, Mulrooney, Chretiean, I think Martian, but not the latest. Wow, how much more religious freedom we enjoy, that politicians can be Catholic and still serve in government and have high positions.

And preachers have a right to say if they want to marry a gay couple or not in Canada. The law says Gays can be married, and that Preachers have the right to say, not at my church. Most Gays just go to the justice of the peace to get it done.

How's that for being getting informed, and not just hearing something and jumping to conclusions.

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[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1621626' date='Aug 9 2008, 03:56 AM']You are right, no one should come into our country and start spewing this garbage. But because this is America, they have every right to do it.[/quote]
They do? Think if we went up North and spewed similar croutons about their country they'd tolerate it at all? No we would be pompous, American scumbags. I don't see how this is any different.

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[quote name='Justin86' post='1621567' date='Aug 8 2008, 03:29 PM']Wow, in the same breath that you condemn panic's misconception of you for being self-righteous you reveal yourself as being just that in this thread.[/quote]

Again, Justin, I was commenting on someone else's comment. I make no such claim.

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cmotherofpirl

[quote name='KOIfriend' post='1621604' date='Aug 8 2008, 03:45 PM']What you just said doesn't make sense.

She didn't know we had a charter of rights and freedoms, and therefore she said we had no basic human rights, but we do, so it would be nice if she appologized and said, oh, I didn't know that, instead of making excuses.

Justin, please read more before you post, because your post doesn't make much sense.[/quote]
Yes you have legal documents, remember I was an exchange student there, and actually met Trudeau and had lunch with Brian Mulroney. But your right to free speech was abrogated by article 13 and the Human Rights Commissions.

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