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I'm cleaning my room right now, and in the first time in a long time I've really noticed the wiccan/pagan books and tarot cards still on one of my desk shelves. And now that I think about it, I guess I'm hesitant to throw them away or shove them off into a dark corner. I haven't been tempted by them but yet, at the same time, it's like I can't bring myself to chuck 'em out. <_<

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Fidei Defensor

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1619815' date='Aug 6 2008, 08:02 PM']I'm cleaning my room right now, and in the first time in a long time I've really noticed the wiccan/pagan books and tarot cards still on one of my desk shelves. And now that I think about it, I guess I'm hesitant to throw them away or shove them off into a dark corner. I haven't been tempted by them but yet, at the same time, it's like I can't bring myself to chuck 'em out. <_<[/quote]
I wouldn't worry about it. If your faith is real then pray for deliverance. If you faith is false, well, then what does it really matter what you do? Choose to believe that you are stronger than anything like that, get rid of them, and pray to be delievered from any temptations.

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TotusTuusMaria

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1619815' date='Aug 6 2008, 10:02 PM']I'm cleaning my room right now, and in the first time in a long time I've really noticed the wiccan/pagan books and tarot cards still on one of my desk shelves. And now that I think about it, I guess I'm hesitant to throw them away or shove them off into a dark corner. I haven't been tempted by them but yet, at the same time, it's like I can't bring myself to chuck 'em out. <_<[/quote]

Those things have dark and evil spirits attached to them. Please throw them out.

Prayers. :sign: It is really bad spiritually to keep those things in the house.

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TotusTuusMaria

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1619817' date='Aug 6 2008, 10:08 PM']I wouldn't worry about it. If your faith is real then pray for deliverance. If you faith is false, well, then what does it really matter what you do? Choose to believe that you are stronger than anything like that, get rid of them, and pray to be delievered from any temptations.[/quote]

I don't think just testing it would be the best thing to do.

It is practically saying that demons are in your house, and instead of getting them out we'll just leave them there and if her faith is strong then she won't be bothered by them? Whether faith is strong or not, those things are demonic and have evil spirits attached to them. For your spiritual safety, please chunk them.

EDIT: Actually, instead of chunking them I would burn them outside (and although this may sound really stupid) I would burn them over something so that the ashes are caught and go and place the ashes in some deserted field far far away from me.

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[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1619815' date='Aug 6 2008, 11:02 PM']I'm cleaning my room right now, and in the first time in a long time I've really noticed the wiccan/pagan books and tarot cards still on one of my desk shelves. And now that I think about it, I guess I'm hesitant to throw them away or shove them off into a dark corner. I haven't been tempted by them but yet, at the same time, it's like I can't bring myself to chuck 'em out. <_<[/quote]

Do you have any wiccan friends? Perhaps you could give them away, or perhaps sell them to a used book store.

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TotusTuusMaria

[quote name='Selah' post='1619820' date='Aug 6 2008, 10:13 PM']Do you have any wiccan friends? Perhaps you could give them away, or perhaps sell them to a used book store.[/quote]

I am sorry to be persistent in this, but really... giving things with demons attached to them to friends to encourage them and help them out in their demonic dabbling I don't think is very wise.

I really wouldn't give them to anyone and I wouldn't even want them out in the world anymore.

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When I moved to Canada, I had 20 years worth of stuff to go through. I was shipping my things from Florida, and had a limited budget. I had to part with many things that I never would have thought possible. I had to decide what was really important. The local St. Vincent dePaul thrift store had a really good month on donations. Now and then, I catch myself looking for something, and have to remind myself that I don't have something anymore. In getting married, I really took on a new life, and left much of my old life behind.

When I had finally rehabbed to the point that I no longer needed my wheelchair, I still hung on to it. I was afraid to give it up. When I finally did, I took it down to donate. The donation center was in an old gas station garage. The attendant kind of rolled it in the door, but the floor was sloped towards the door, so it did a U-turn and rolled back to the door, like it was trying to follow me. It was so sad in a way. It had been my constant companion for over 8 years. Months later I saw it again. A woman who had lost her legs to diabetes was using it. I knew every dink on the arms from playing catch, and missing with my youngest foster son.

I know that when priests advise people who have compulsive sin issues that they have to cleanse their environment of any temptations. It's kind of like the pantry purge you have to do when starting a new diet. You don't need those things anymore. They are like that sack of oreo cookies that don't need to be in my pantry. If you can't bring yourself to throw them away, take them to a used book store, and trade them for some decent theology books, or sell them and use the money for a new prayer book. Saying good-bye to things is part of life, and what it does is open a space for something else, something better.

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HisChildForever

[quote]I am sorry to be persistent in this, but really... giving things with demons attached to them to friends to encourage them and help them out in their demonic dabbling I don't think is very wise.[/quote]

I agree. To be honest, my one friend is into astrology, but then I felt like I would be encouraging it and aiding sin. God would be so disappointed in me if I did that.

I want to make a stop at the mall tomorrow. Maybe I'll bring them with me and just give them to the book store for free. I know in one of the books I did some writing so maybe I should just throw that one out.

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I still have my Book of Shadows. Ritual notes and all.

I was advised to burn it, but I think it's important to always remember where you came from. There's no use in trying to pretend like the past never happened--it's a part of you, whether or not you want to admit it.

So, what I did was I turned it into a spiritual journal. I write out my struggles with God, Catholicism, and life in general; quotes from Scripture and the saints, poems, etc.

As for the books, I have to agree with the others in saying not to sell them or give them away. If you do, you'll be helping them to sin. It's probably best--and as a book lover I cringe saying this--to just throw them away. That way, they will be out of your hands, and the hands of anyone who might be led astray by them.

And the cards--this is the ex-Pagan in me talking now--burn them or bury them. If that's not possible, throw them away, especially if you used them regularly.

Hope this helps. :)

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Fidei Defensor

Like I said, if they are a temptation, get rid of them. But I think it's silly to be afraid of mere objects, I'm sure your God is much more powerful than books or cards.

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I had two tarot decks myself, and several books on Neo-Pagan religions. I've kept the books out of more of a scholarly interest than any other; because that is mostly what they were for. Schoolwork, a book on Wicca has never truly helped me long for the occult in any way. (Definition of Irony: Interest in the occult garnered by a Religions to Beware Of course at church and by a pastor's wife's English Honors course.)

The tarot decks, I have one I never used as a reminder of what could have been, and by the Grace of God was not. The other was dedicated to Someone; and I tossed it in the dumpster in a ziplock full of salt.

So here's my two cents: if they help draw you in any way towards sin, dispose of them. If they serve as a reminder and not a temptation, then consider keeping them, but most likely, throw them away.

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TotusTuusMaria

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1619913' date='Aug 6 2008, 11:46 PM']Like I said, if they are a temptation, get rid of them. But I think it's silly to be afraid of mere objects, I'm sure your God is much more powerful than books or cards.[/quote]

It is not fear of an object. It is the reality that evil spirits are attached to those things. We had an exorcist that came out to my friends house because very, very weird things were happening and the entire family was seeing things. The exorcist pointed out those objects and explained to her that demonic spirits are always with those things. As soon as he came in he pointed to them and told the family they needed to be disposed of. Nothing happened again afterward, once they were gotten rid of.

Evil spirits are attached to things like that. They dwell with those things, like guardian angels are always with us or angels are always in churches. Evil spirits do not leave things that draw one toward the devil like wiccan objects or tarot cards. They are bad. The objects are not sources of temptation... it is the evil spirits... demons that one shouldn't think about inviting into one's house and home. And one should not be fearful of them, but one certainly shouldn't welcome them and keep demonic objects in one's house.

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TotusTuusMaria

[quote name='CatholicCid' post='1619905' date='Aug 6 2008, 11:36 PM']Perhaps give them to a Priest and ask of him to dispose of them.[/quote]

I second this.

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HisChildForever

I stuffed the items into a bag and then stuffed them deep into the [kitchen] trash. With the tarot deck, I placed them in the drawer. Like someone said, they are almost a reminder of the things I have overcome. As I placed them in the drawer, I was not tempted to pull them out. In time, however, I am sure they will find their place in the trash as well.

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