TeresaBenedicta Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 [url="http://www.prolifenews.tv/index.php/site/comments/washington_dc_area_pro_life_face_the_truh_tour_participants_arrested/"]http://www.prolifenews.tv/index.php/site/c...pants_arrested/[/url] I don't think this has hit the news yet. I just found this particular entry about it, aftering having gotten off the phone with my best friend from school. She is a core team member of the "Face the Truth" tour and she, along with 17 other individuals were arrested yesterday evening. They had been at a certain location and an officer had come up to them, demanding that they leave. When they asked which laws they were breaking, the officer refused to tell them. He said, "It doesn't matter what the law says, it matters what I say the law says." (They have a video tape of all of this.) So, deciding that they'd rather not be a nuissance and push the issue, they packed up to go to a different location in a different city. The officer followed them, and once they had set up, he came and arrested my friend. He said nothing except for "Turn around, you're under arrest." When she asked why she was under arrest and what her rights were, he ignored her. Then they arrested everyone who was there. It took all night for them to be processed. They were all relased by around 9:30am-- some on bail (out of staters), others just released. About four of my friends were arrested and they have three criminal charges against them, which if prosecuted and convicted, they could spend around 10 months in jail. I don't think the charges will go through, especially because these were unlawful arrests but... please pray for my friends, that their suffering may avail to some good. This is scary times for all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Wow! I wouldn't worry. If they have all of this on tape, including the violation of their Miranda rights, the charges will be dropped. It wouldn't take a lawyer...heck, I could represent them with my pre-law experience. I'll pray though. Try to stay positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 That's funny...I always thought Washington, D.C was in the USA, not Nazi Germany. How about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaBenedicta Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 [quote name='kujo' post='1616204' date='Aug 2 2008, 10:54 PM']Wow! I wouldn't worry. If they have all of this on tape, including the violation of their Miranda rights, the charges will be dropped. It wouldn't take a lawyer...heck, I could represent them with my pre-law experience. I'll pray though. Try to stay positive.[/quote] It would be crazy if the charges weren't dropped. It's hard for me not to say, "Wow, that's so cool!" to my friends, because this is so clearly a case of persecution for the sake of Christ. But it is still scary for my friends, and we are unsure of where God is taking this. What the outcome will be and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farsight one Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) [quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1616195' date='Aug 2 2008, 09:41 PM'][url="http://www.prolifenews.tv/index.php/site/comments/washington_dc_area_pro_life_face_the_trutour_participants_arrested/"]http://www.prolifenews.tv/index.php/site/c...pants_arrested/[/url] I don't think this has hit the news yet. I just found this particular entry about it, aftering having gotten off the phone with my best friend from school. She is a core team member of the "Face the Truth" tour and she, along with 17 other individuals were arrested yesterday evening. They had been at a certain location and an officer had come up to them, demanding that they leave. When they asked which laws they were breaking, the officer refused to tell them. He said, "It doesn't matter what the law says, it matters what I say the law says." (They have a video tape of all of this.) So, deciding that they'd rather not be a nuissance and push the issue, they packed up to go to a different location in a different city. The officer followed them, and once they had set up, he came and arrested my friend. He said nothing except for "Turn around, you're under arrest." When she asked why she was under arrest and what her rights were, he ignored her. Then they arrested everyone who was there. It took all night for them to be processed. They were all relased by around 9:30am-- some on bail (out of staters), others just released. About four of my friends were arrested and they have three criminal charges against them, which if prosecuted and convicted, they could spend around 10 months in jail. I don't think the charges will go through, especially because these were unlawful arrests but... please pray for my friends, that their suffering may avail to some good. This is scary times for all of us.[/quote]Those were must definitely unlawful arrests. That officer might not have a job after this incident. At the very least, he'll be stuck behind a desk for the rest of his career, provided of course, that the rest of the system isn't as biased as he is. Also...does anyone know - if they don't tell you why you're being arrested, don't you have the legal right to resist? Edited August 3, 2008 by Farsight one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 [quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1616211' date='Aug 2 2008, 10:58 PM']It would be crazy if the charges weren't dropped. It's hard for me not to say, "Wow, that's so cool!" to my friends, because this is so clearly a case of persecution for the sake of Christ. But it is still scary for my friends, and we are unsure of where God is taking this. What the outcome will be and the like.[/quote] I know what you mean. I've always kinda wished I'd have something like this happen to me...I'd love to get martryed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaBenedicta Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 [quote name='kujo' post='1616216' date='Aug 2 2008, 11:00 PM']I know what you mean. I've always kinda wished I'd have something like this happen to me...I'd love to get martryed!!! [/quote] I know! And I'm kind of kicking myself, because I could've been there and been on the core team. They were going to pay for my plane tickets and everything. But I couldn't get off work. Haha, yes, I'm strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) [quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1616195' date='Aug 2 2008, 09:41 PM'][url="http://www.prolifenews.tv/index.php/site/comments/washington_dc_area_pro_life_face_the_trutour_participants_arrested/"]http://www.prolifenews.tv/index.php/site/c...pants_arrested/[/url] I don't think this has hit the news yet. I just found this particular entry about it, aftering having gotten off the phone with my best friend from school. She is a core team member of the "Face the Truth" tour and she, along with 17 other individuals were arrested yesterday evening. They had been at a certain location and an officer had come up to them, demanding that they leave. When they asked which laws they were breaking, the officer refused to tell them. He said, "It doesn't matter what the law says, it matters what I say the law says." (They have a video tape of all of this.) So, deciding that they'd rather not be a nuissance and push the issue, they packed up to go to a different location in a different city. The officer followed them, and once they had set up, he came and arrested my friend. He said nothing except for "Turn around, you're under arrest." When she asked why she was under arrest and what her rights were, he ignored her. Then they arrested everyone who was there. It took all night for them to be processed. They were all relased by around 9:30am-- some on bail (out of staters), others just released. About four of my friends were arrested and they have three criminal charges against them, which if prosecuted and convicted, they could spend around 10 months in jail. I don't think the charges will go through, especially because these were unlawful arrests but... please pray for my friends, that their suffering may avail to some good. This is scary times for all of us.[/quote] I just checked my email and I received something about it. Frightening times indeed - preserve that videotape at all costs and countersue!!! We can't let them get away with this, or the harassment will only get worse! Edited August 3, 2008 by Norseman82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BCatholic139 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Blessed are they, their reward is great in Heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaBenedicta Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 [quote name='Norseman82' post='1616222' date='Aug 2 2008, 11:03 PM']Was this the one in Maryland? I just checked my email and I received something about it. Frightening times indeed - preserve that videotape at all costs and countersue!!![/quote] Yeah, that would be the one. I think they sent out an e-mail to everyone who was on the pro-life list or something. I remember my friend mentioning something about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 "Those were must definitely unlawful arrests. That officer might not have a job after this incident. At the very least, he'll be stuck behind a desk for the rest of his career, provided of course, that the rest of the system isn't as biased as he is." --- Not necessarily true at all. If you are in a anti-life area they likely arrested the group to end the abortion protest, which they did successfully. If he even gets a slap on the wrist I will admit surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 If I was driving past, I would've pulled over and given them all handshakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommas_boy Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 [quote name='TeresaBenedicta' post='1616195' date='Aug 2 2008, 09:41 PM'][url="http://www.prolifenews.tv/index.php/site/comments/washington_dc_area_pro_life_face_the_tru_tour_participants_arrested/"]http://www.prolifenews.tv/index.php/site/c...pants_arrested/[/url] I don't think this has hit the news yet. I just found this particular entry about it, aftering having gotten off the phone with my best friend from school. She is a core team member of the "Face the Truth" tour and she, along with 17 other individuals were arrested yesterday evening. They had been at a certain location and an officer had come up to them, demanding that they leave. When they asked which laws they were breaking, the officer refused to tell them. He said, "It doesn't matter what the law says, it matters what I say the law says." (They have a video tape of all of this.) So, deciding that they'd rather not be a nuissance and push the issue, they packed up to go to a different location in a different city. The officer followed them, and once they had set up, he came and arrested my friend. He said nothing except for "Turn around, you're under arrest." When she asked why she was under arrest and what her rights were, he ignored her. Then they arrested everyone who was there. It took all night for them to be processed. They were all relased by around 9:30am-- some on bail (out of staters), others just released. About four of my friends were arrested and they have three criminal charges against them, which if prosecuted and convicted, they could spend around 10 months in jail. I don't think the charges will go through, especially because these were unlawful arrests but... please pray for my friends, that their suffering may avail to some good. This is scary times for all of us.[/quote] This should be overturned in court, so long as the judge is doing his/her job. At the question "What laws are we breaking?" the officer is required to respond truthfully. The statement, "It doesn't matter what the law says, it matters what I say the law says." is laughable. It might even be grounds for dismissal from the police force. Further, if the officer followed them to another city, I believe that he would be outside of his jurisdiction. This probably isn't a problem for legal arrests, but for an illegal arrest such as this could go to demonstrate malicious intent on the part of the officer, beyond his comment. I believe that the proper legal terminology for a case like this is "slam dunk". In any event, high five to them for acting charitably and for being spiritual martyrs. Prayers for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Tell them to call these people: [url="http://www.thomasmoresociety.org/thomas_more_society_attorneys.htm"]http://www.thomasmoresociety.org/thomas_mo...y_attorneys.htm[/url] [url="http://www.catholicleague.org/"]http://www.catholicleague.org/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaBenedicta Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1616490' date='Aug 3 2008, 03:31 PM']Tell them to call these people: [url="http://www.thomasmoresociety.org/thomas_more_society_attorneys.htm"]http://www.thomasmoresociety.org/thomas_mo...y_attorneys.htm[/url] [url="http://www.catholicleague.org/"]http://www.catholicleague.org/[/url][/quote] I will pass this on, thank-you. I'm not sure who their lawyer, but from what I've heard he's a pretty good one and he's immensely pro-life. He came with another lawyer from his firm and posted bail for all of the out-of-state pro-lifers (bail at $3,000!!!), at 1am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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