If Marijuana Were Legal Would You Consider It A Sin To Use It ?

[Deb]

All drugs should be legal and controlled. That isn't the debate.

[Justin86]

Cocaine is considered a drug...

That being said, I agree with you that we shouldn't feel we need to use alcohol or drugs to relax, but it's still not a sin to have a beer or smoke some marijuana unless it's outlawed by the state.

Edited August 13, 2008 by Justin86

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='zwergel88' post='1625792' date='Aug 12 2008, 11:44 PM']All of these effects that claim to result from smoking marijuana have not been proven. Sure, smoking [i]anything[/i] is bad for you, but most people do not smoke enough weed to warrent a serious concern. Cigarette smoking is much more dangerous because of the volume that people smoke as a result of nicotine addition, yet it is generally not classified as a sin.

Effects such as physhosis and depression only occur in the most frequent users, not in occasional social users. The positive effects of marijuana smoking, and the benefits that it can provide to people suffering from many different medical conditions such as aids, cancer, glaucoma, and chronic pain, have been proven much more conclusively.

FYI, I do NOT smoke pot. I just seriously think that it is time that this country legalized it. We need to stop filling up our prisons with non-violent offenders, and legalizing would also eliminate large amounts of drug related violence and provide revenue for the government if a tax was placed on sales.[/quote]
Ah actually they have that is why I posted them. They are medical articles published in just the LAST YEAR on the effects of weed.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='havok579257' post='1624529' date='Aug 11 2008, 07:37 PM']So may I ask, are you against fast food resturnaunts and most resturanunts in general? Do you make sure to avoid any foods with excessive fats and sugars and calories? Do you avoid things such as suagrs and sweets except in small moderation. Cause these things damage the heart, arteries, liver, colon, teeth, gums, BP, unborn child and lead to things like heart disease, heart attacks, CAD, liver damage, tooth decay, high BP which leads to heart damage, diabities, gestational diabities, diabities in children and so on and so on?

Just wondering why you consider the line is?[/quote]
I am against mind altering body damaging drugs.
I go to restaurants every weekend, and yes I do avoid excessive fats, calories and sugars, and have lost 20 pounds so far this year doing it. Excessive fats calories and sugars do not make you stupid, addicted, and dead in the same way weed does.

[Justin86]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1626008' date='Aug 14 2008, 12:06 AM']Ah actually they have that is why I posted them. They are medical articles published in just the LAST YEAR on the effects of weed.[/quote]

I have a problem declaring substances to be sinful on the sole basis of "proven" medical research. We never really know whether or not the people behind the study, or the people actually conducting the study, had an alternative agenda other than. Furthermore, some things that were once scientifically proven, were later false. For example, when Edison recorded sound it was a huge deal as it was believed to be impossible at the time. I just see it as too unreliable and a constantly changing thing to base judging something to be sinful on.

My line of thought is we can use substances for recreation purposes, but if they ever get to the point where we start to do and say things we don't ordinarily do it becomes sinful. That goes for any type of substance.

[Deb]

In one of Anne, the lay apostles books, she was trying very hard to quit smoking. Jesus said to her, I am within you. Would you blow smoke in the tabernacle?
That kind of hit me with asking that question of many things. Something to think about.

[havok579257]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1626009' date='Aug 13 2008, 11:10 AM']I am against mind altering body damaging drugs.
I go to restaurants every weekend, and yes I do avoid excessive fats, calories and sugars, and have lost 20 pounds so far this year doing it. Excessive fats calories and sugars do not make you stupid, addicted, and dead in the same way weed does.[/quote]


Weed does not make you dead? Unless your smoking all day every day, weed will not kill you. Alcohol is going to kill you well before weed does.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='havok579257' post='1626035' date='Aug 13 2008, 12:40 PM']Weed does not make you dead? Unless your smoking all day every day, weed will not kill you. Alcohol is going to kill you well before weed does.[/quote]
Weed makes you stupid. Do enough stupid things and you will die far younger than God had planned.

I went to school with many people who started out by smoking weed every day. They are pushing up daisies now, because that stupidity led to other stupidities.

[Didymus]

[quote name='MissScripture' post='1622260' date='Aug 8 2008, 11:41 PM']Just because something is good because God created it, doesn't mean that it is good for all uses in all situations. For example, sex is good, but only in the right context.[/quote]


sounds good. I pledge to not smoke pot till my wedding night.

[havok579257]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1626105' date='Aug 13 2008, 01:15 PM']Weed makes you stupid. Do enough stupid things and you will die far younger than God had planned.

I went to school with many people who started out by smoking weed every day. They are pushing up daisies now, because that stupidity led to other stupidities.[/quote]


And I went to school with numerous people who smoked weed everyday and lead productive lives. For every case you throw out, the same can be said for the other side.

Also I know people who ate fast food all the time and who are dead due to heart attacks or are missing limbs from diabities. Should we outlaw all fast food chains?

Also just because people don't smoke weed or drink alcohol does not mean they don't do stupid things. If anything weed has been shown to make a person lethargic and unmotivated. People are less likely to do something stupid on weedf compared to alcohol. Just look at deaths by drunk driving compared to deaths by high on weed drivers.

[Deb]

Weed will always be a much, much less dangerous drug than alcohol. There is not doubt about that. From a health standpoint as to what people do when under the influence standpoint.

You are right about just as many people who smoke weed and don't do stupid things as they who do. I got a degree in Law Enforcement while stoned AND with good grades and working a very stressful full time job.
People who have no brain power or motivation to begin with, should never smoke pot.

But, here we are again. The question is whether or not it would be a sin to use it if it were legal. I think we just have to leave that up to the Church in the bizarre off chance that would ever happen here.

[zwergel88]

[quote name='Deb' post='1626233' date='Aug 13 2008, 02:44 PM']But, here we are again. The question is whether or not it would be a sin to use it if it were legal. I think we just have to leave that up to the Church in the bizarre off chance that would ever happen here.[/quote]


Maybe not that bizarre...there was a new resolution introduced in congress that would legalize personal use. Of course it won't pass this time, but I think that we are definately moving toward decriminalization.

[Deb]

Small amounts in your possession in Minnesota is little more than a traffic ticket would be so that isn't much of a threat.
If they do decriminalize it, they need to let it be grown, licensed, taxed and sold like liquor. Otherwise, it means little.

[zwergel88]

I completely agree. Imagine if it were sold legally, and taxed and the money used to help real drug addicts. It is estimated that the revenue would be like $14 billion a year!

[Saint Therese]

It depends on if it were the really good stuff.