Obama Afixes Image @ Temple Wall

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='kujo' post='1607420' date='Jul 24 2008, 12:07 PM']I know that. I'm not saying they got them from that person, but that such items are available.[/quote]

I thought, but was unsure. However the substrate alone used is not cheap material. Your point could be right but it is highly doubtful. Also the photo of Obama, that is the file size would have to be huge 100mb or more not net friendly, not amateur just supporter likely. His trip to wall was a secret very few would have know about his coming there, most if not all of which would have been part of his campaign.

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
[url="http://theanchoressonline.com/2008/07/23/obama-president-of-the-world/"]The Anchoress[/url] takes on Obama: President of the World? - she's got links and it's actually quite scary

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1607451' date='Jul 24 2008, 12:33 PM']Obama is a person with whom you disagree. He's not a monster, he's not inhuman. I'm not saying that the positions he supports aren't immoral but once we start labeling people "antichrists," it's a very slippery slope to the stuff that happened in Srebenica, which is of course again in the news due to the capture of Radovan Karadzic.[/quote]

Obama is a evil and wicked human, who stands against Christ for his support of late term partial birth abortion, as well as the other parts of that holocaust, he is a antichrist.

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1607451' date='Jul 24 2008, 12:33 PM']Obama is a person with whom you disagree. He's not a monster, he's not inhuman.[/quote]

Anyone who is for the BRUTAL murder of the unborn as well as babies born "accidentally" during abortions, I would consider inhuman and yes, a monster.

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1607455' date='Jul 24 2008, 12:39 PM']Obama is a evil and wicked human, who stands against Christ for his support of late term partial birth abortion, as well as the other parts of that holocaust, he is a antichrist.[/quote]


[quote name='dominicansoul' post='1607457' date='Jul 24 2008, 12:44 PM']Anyone who is for the BRUTAL murder of the unborn as well as babies born "accidentally" during abortions, I would consider inhuman and yes, a monster.[/quote]
So what we've done now is preclude any sort of possibility of communication with Obama. We don't talk to monsters, we destroy them. You don't change hearts and minds by saying, "you're a monster" but through dialogue.

[dominicansoul]

Ever hear of someone by the name of Chamberlain?

Ever hear of "peace in our times?"

Yeah, tallking to Hitler really did some good!

I call Obama what he is. And I don't understand what you mean, "we destroy monsters..."? What does that mean? I'm not into destroying monsters. I'm for praying for their conversions.

[b]Monsters don't destroy anyone but themselves. [/b]

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='kenrockthefirst' post='1607459' date='Jul 24 2008, 12:54 PM']So what we've done now is preclude any sort of possibility of communication with Obama. We don't talk to monsters, we destroy them. You don't change hearts and minds by saying, "you're a monster" but through dialogue.[/quote]

Hey look if Obama says he can talk to the pres of Iran after all the insane things that guy's has said Obama can speak to us when we speak the truth about Obama.

[BG45]

*gasp* Obama is human and doing what every other politician who visits Israel is doing? How dare he do this when he promises "Change we can believe in!"?

Seriously though. It's just the average political pandering that every politician does. John McCain did the same thing (minus the signs) back in March and I didn't see this kind of furor here on the phorum; that visit caused a literal riot.

[Galloglasses]

Arrogency, Rising.

Seriously though folks, KoC is right, (and for goodness sake BG, they're not calling him inhuman because of these posters, they're calling him inhuman for, well, more obvious reasons), this is a very arrogent thing for him to do. Politicians have always gone to the Wailing wall as a form of pandering, [i]that's nothing new,[/i] what IS new is that The Obama Campaign has signs and Posters with Obama's face in a stance that reminds me creepily of Communistic propaganda images, [i]In front of Judaism's Holiest of sites,[/i] this is what Arrogence is and what the controversy of the thread is centred on, not the visit in and of itself.

Its almost like he's saying, "Hey, look at me! I'm doing something at a famous building. Oh! Don't mind the building itself, its not that important, its like any other wall of any other famous building"

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='BG45' post='1607480' date='Jul 24 2008, 01:49 PM']*gasp* Obama is human and doing what every other politician who visits Israel is doing? How dare he do this when he promises "Change we can believe in!"?

Seriously though. It's just the average political pandering that every politician does. John McCain did the same thing (minus the signs) back in March and I didn't see this kind of furor here on the phorum; that visit caused a literal riot.[/quote]

Its the posters. Thats my beef.

[BG45]

I'm sorry if I fail to see how your post applies to anything I said Galloglasses.

I'm not denying he sullied the holiest site in Judaism with his signs. I am not denying that it is arrogant. However anyone who runs for the office of the President of the United States is at heart an arrogant person, it's a pre-requisite for a person to believe they have a chance at winning.

I'm just saying that blasphemy is business as usual for presidential campaigns. To sully a holy site, to claim that one has the blessing of Almighty God, to claim to be a Messianic figure, to claim that one's victory upon achieving it is the Will of God. I just fail to see how this is any more heinous than the business as usual approach of dragging Jesus Christ down to our level.

Christ is not a Republican, nor is He a Democrat. He is not a Tory, nor is He a Labour member. He is not a Green, a Socialist, or Progressive Democrat, or a Fine Gael. He is not a National Democrat, He is not a liberal, He is not a Conservative, He is not a Centrist.

He is beyond our petty politics. He is beyond our sullying of holy sites. He is beyond our ability to comprehend in all of His glorious mystery. I know in my nation at least, people fling such accusations as one being against Christ for a certain political stance, when the reality is, He would not (most likely) vote for any of these people.

[Mercy me]

According to [url="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70454"]World Net Daily[/url] who is quoting a Jerusalem police officer, the Obama campaign pull the signs up.

[dominicansoul]

I disagree. I believe Christ IS INVOLVED with what's going on in politics. He does desire good, faithful leaders. God gets totally involved with nations and their political futures. (Remember St. Joan of Arc?)

There is a war going on here. A war between good and evil...the Culture of Life vs. the Culture of Death...this is more than just "petty politics."

[Mercy me]

[Galloglasses]

The Mundane is the public face of the magnificent.

Our Petty politics will affect millions for years to come, Jesus is above us, of course He is, but He is involved in us and our petty affairs, he accepts our pettiness, he helps us with our pettiness, for our pettiness can mean the life and death of people. Our petty politics will affect millions of unborn babies. And Christ will ignore this?

I know that Christ is not a politician, nor is he a member of a political party or ideaology, (quite clever of you to through Fine Geal in there BG), He is a King, which in itself, means He is both above and involved in our affairs.