ironmonk Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Here is a great Obama site... not much yet, but I love the statement it makes because the guy is such a snake. [url="http://www.ObamaBeenLying.com"]http://www.ObamaBeenLying.com[/url] Hilarious take on his anti-Semitism. God Bless! ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan!c139 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Haha thats pretty funny. And true too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote name='ironmonk' post='1602984' date='Jul 18 2008, 08:12 PM']Here is a great Obama site... not much yet, but I love the statement it makes because the guy is such a snake. [url="http://www.ObamaBeenLying.com"]http://www.ObamaBeenLying.com[/url] Hilarious take on his anti-Semitism. God Bless! ironmonk[/quote] What a disgusting site. You should be ashamed of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 He is a liar. Worst than that though is that his "friendships" are deeply troubling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1603008' date='Jul 18 2008, 09:14 PM']He is a liar. Worst than that though is that his "friendships" are deeply troubling.[/quote] I suppose Pope John Paul the Great's associations with Pio Cardinal Laghi and Jorge Raeal Videla means he supports South American war criminals and their supporters. This "Guilt by Association" is just as much a joke as that site. If you have proof he supports domestic terrorism let's see it, if not, it's just slander. Edited July 19, 2008 by Hassan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) the website is pathetic, it has no credibility. it does have some truths, and half truths, but what doesn't. it's no worse than all the random religious zeolot websites, that just spews gut talk. kinda like chic type christians act against the catholic church. next thing you know, people are going to be posting websites with pics of the politiician with little horns drawn on them. and of course the rhetoric of the day. as long as it's meant for joking purposes, sure. the pastor thing, obama should take heat for. it's really no worse than people following all the crazy things of pat robertson etc. only this man is black and says crazy things. but people who follow robertson should be called out, too. they shouldn't be said to believe what robertson does though, as obama shouldn't, completley. obama's guilty of infanticide, but not to the extent that website would have you believe. the website doesn't even know how to use logic, as per the mccain example, all while it's claiming to be logical, the irony is that it's the one who is not. the anti semitism stuff wasn't even substantiated. as foolish as the people that believe it. i mean, c'mon people, get real. serious websites, are welcome. there's millions out there, there's surely better ones than something that looks like a 13 year old created. Edited July 19, 2008 by dairygirl4u2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 so is this site pro-mcCain?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassan Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1603170' date='Jul 19 2008, 12:06 AM']the website is pathetic, it has no credibility. it does have some truths, and half truths, but what doesn't. it's no worse than all the random religious zeolot websites, that just spews gut talk. kinda like chic type christians act against the catholic church. next thing you know, people are going to be posting websites with pics of the politiician with little horns drawn on them. and of course the rhetoric of the day. as long as it's meant for joking purposes, sure. the pastor thing, obama should take heat for. it's really no worse than people following all the crazy things of pat robertson etc. only this man is black and says crazy things. but people who follow robertson should be called out, too. they shouldn't be said to believe what robertson does though, as obama shouldn't, completley. obama's guilty of infanticide, but not to the extent that website would have you believe. the website doesn't even know how to use logic, as per the mccain example, all while it's claiming to be logical, the irony is that it's the one who is not. the anti semitism stuff wasn't even substantiated. as foolish as the people that believe it. i mean, c'mon people, get real. serious websites, are welcome. there's millions out there, there's surely better ones than something that looks like a 13 year old created.[/quote] Really? I felt the Obama Nazi caricature was tasteful and the analysis insightful. As for Infanticide, I don’t think that flies. I believe abortion is gravely wrong, homosexual actions as well. However there is a difference between a politicians admitting that we live in a secular society and that he feels the case law is sound, being guilty of infanticide. Unless we are now going to say Mr. Bush is a murderer for allowing the Death Penalty. St. Thomas Aquinas said, I believe, that abortion was moral before the first movements of the fetus. I don’t think that makes him responsible for any early term abortions that occurred in 13th century Christendom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) i don't know if he said it was moral. i'd think this, given that to my knowledge the CC always taught that an abortion was a sin at all points, but they only taught that it was definitely murder later in time, arguably when the sceinece improved. the infanticide thing. he was against a law that required born alive fetuses that were not really able to be saved, to try to be saved anyway, to my understanding. he said he's against infantificide of typical newborns. and he wasn't for dirctly killing them that i know of for earlier ones. of course, he's for partial birth abortion, which esseitally is infanticide. and he's got other abortion issues against him, that culd be brought up in a more serious threadsometime. the is theonly thing that might make me vote for mccain, at the rate the race is going. i'm still fence sitting tho. but anyway. Edited July 19, 2008 by dairygirl4u2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote name='Hassan' post='1603041' date='Jul 19 2008, 12:14 AM']I suppose Pope John Paul the Great's associations with Pio Cardinal Laghi and Jorge Raeal Videla means he supports South American war criminals and their supporters. This "Guilt by Association" is just as much a joke as that site. If you have proof he supports domestic terrorism let's see it, if not, it's just slander.[/quote] I think it's much more than "association"... the whole 'birds of a feather flock together' saying goes here... Rev Wright, according to Obama's book which was based on a Rev Wright sermon, was Obama's close friend and mentor... Typically when someone calls someone a mentor, they agree with 99% of what their mentor preaches. Since Obama has been in a relationship with this man for almost 20 years, I think that speaks volumns for what Obama believes. Then it's not just association to Bill Ayers, it's a very close personal friendship with a man that is a terrorist from the 70's, says he wishes he bombed more, and is not in prison because of a technicallity... Check this article out, and note all the news stories.... this article doesn't imply, it simply sums the points from news sorces... it does connect the dots... Connecting the Dots: The Barack Obama Bill Ayers Connection [url="http://conservablogs.com/velvethammer/2008/05/05/connecting-the-dots-the-barack-obama-bill-ayers-connection"]http://conservablogs.com/velvethammer/2008...yers-connection[/url] Some evidence is circumstantial, but real life is not a court of law and circumstantial evidence adds up. God Bless! ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote name='Hassan' post='1603041' date='Jul 18 2008, 10:14 PM']I suppose Pope John Paul the Great's associations with Pio Cardinal Laghi and Jorge Raeal Videla means he supports South American war criminals and their supporters.[/quote] As for JPII's personal associations, he probably spent the most time with Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote]I felt the Obama Nazi caricature was tasteful and the analysis insightful.[/quote] that was good for a laugh though, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote name='ironmonk' post='1603310' date='Jul 19 2008, 11:42 AM']Typically when someone calls someone a mentor, they agree with 99% of what their mentor preaches.[/quote] how insightful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote name='fides quarens intellectum' post='1603312' date='Jul 19 2008, 11:43 AM']As for JPII's personal associations, he probably spent the most time with Jesus. [/quote] Who are we to judge that Obama does anything less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 [quote name='Hassan' post='1603041' date='Jul 18 2008, 10:14 PM']This "Guilt by Association" is just as much a joke[/quote] LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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