Is It Wrong For Gay/lesbian Couples To Adopt?

[princessgianna]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1601304' date='Jul 16 2008, 05:07 PM']First, I think a child should be raised with both a mom and a dad in the house. We focus a lot on how boys suffer without a male role model, but so do girls. Not having a dad around can mess up a daughter's relationships with men.

Second, I represented many gay clients, male and female, 20+ years ago, and I truthfully never met a happy couple. They were so broken is so many ways. I'm not saying that all hetero couples are perfect paragons of mental health, but they don't automatically start out with strikes against them.

Lastly, having done more divorces than I care to admit, having sometimes 3 or 4 adults involved in child custody is going to turn out some really screwed up kids.[/quote]
Thank you! The last thing we as a world need is more screwed up kids!

[Kitty]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1624149' date='Aug 11 2008, 12:56 PM']You simply can't pick what parts of Catholic doctrine you believe in, that's really not how it works. "Okay, God, I believe that the Catholic Church is the Truth, but I think you're a bit wrong when it comes to homosexual marriage." No, I'm sorry. You can't do that. That's a contradiction.[/quote]

So what are people like me supposed to do then? Just pretend to agree with the teaching? Yeah, like God can't see your true feelings.

Would God rather you lie or speak your true opinion?

I used to be against gay marriage. After leaving high school and interacting with gay people, some with partners, I made my own observations over a long period of time and made my own conclusions and judgements.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='Kitty' post='1632460' date='Aug 20 2008, 03:04 AM']So what are people like me supposed to do then? Just pretend to agree with the teaching? Yeah, like God can't see your true feelings.[/quote]

No, you are not expected to "pretend" that you agree. But, you [b]are[/b] expected to learn about this teaching, and you are expected to pray for guidance and understanding. God will shower you with His graces and will help you understand and figure things out, but you [b]must[/b] be open, and you must be listening. Every Catholic doubts some piece of Catholic teaching, and some doubt many! I have done this as well - in fact, back in high school, I saw nothing wrong with homosexual civil unions. I reasoned, "Okay, so as a Catholic I can't recognize it, but why not legally? If two people are in love, what's to stop them?" After doing my research, and swallowing my pride, the light bulb illuminated over my head.

[quote]Would God rather you lie or speak your true opinion?[/quote]

You know the answer to this already. You are not to lie. I am not sure what to make of your "true opinion", however. If you go around and mention in conversation that you are pro-gay marriage [b]and[/b] a practicing Catholic, people might assume that Catholics now approve of homosexual marriage. Thus, if you literally meant "speak" - keep silent. But your opinion is wrong (and I do not mean this as a personal attack) because it is contrary to God's teaching.

[quote]I used to be against gay marriage. After leaving high school and interacting with gay people, some with partners, I made my own observations over a long period of time and made my own conclusions and judgements.[/quote]

Do you believe in the infallibility of the Catholic Church? That the Church teaches the Truth? If yes, then how come you agree with everything else, but not this particular subject? It's a contradiction. You can not believe that the Church has the fullness of Truth, and yet disagree with Her at the same time. On the other hand, if you do not believe in the infallibility of the Church, then you are not Catholic.

[mortify]

[quote name='Kitty' post='1632460' date='Aug 20 2008, 02:04 AM']So what are people like me supposed to do then? Just pretend to agree with the teaching? Yeah, like God can't see your true feelings.[/quote]

God expects you to do the right thing and be obedient. You don't have to understand everything, that comes with time. Think back to when Jesus revealed the mystery of the Eucharist. Many of his followers who believed in Him after the miraculous multiplication of loaves left because they could not UNDERSTAND. What did our Lord say to our Apostles? "And you, do you want to leave as well?" St Peter responded, "Where else can we go, Lord?" Sometimes we must accept.
[quote]Would God rather you lie or speak your true opinion?[/quote]
God prefers you be obedient.

[quote]I used to be against gay marriage. After leaving high school and interacting with gay people, some with partners, I made my own observations over a long period of time and made my own conclusions and judgements.[/quote]
I used to not care about anything until I started trying to live a proper life.

[Kitty]

I see this conversation has become more about me and my being a "real Catholic", so I will stop posting anything in this thread, since I see it is completely pointless to argue any further. I still uphold my opinion, which I guess will send me to hell. Oh well.

[mortify]

[quote name='Kitty' post='1633100' date='Aug 20 2008, 06:44 PM']I see this conversation has become more about me and my being a "real Catholic", so I will stop posting anything in this thread, since I see it is completely pointless to argue any further. I still uphold my opinion, which I guess will send me to hell. Oh well.[/quote]

We all make our own choices.