picchick Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 (edited) [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1581541' date='Jun 24 2008, 02:29 PM']Homeschooling in the high school years is perhaps the worst a parent could do.[/quote] [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1581552' date='Jun 24 2008, 02:37 PM']Well if you send your kid off to college after 13, 14 years of homeschoolings it would be a very bad cultureschock for them.[/quote] This is totally not like me... Are you an idiot? Yes, I think you are. I was homeschooled from 6th grade on. I had NO cultureshock whatsoever. You are so totally wrong you make me laugh and be angry at the same time. Do you even know what you are talking about? You don't do you? I am like the most shy person you will ever meet. When I was in PUBLIC school I rarely talked because I was so embarrassed and I would always say the wrong thing. So I learned to keep my mouth shut. In being homeschooled, I was able to reflect on myself and focus on my studies. This in fact made me more confident in my ability to voice my opinion. I am not narrowminded, I am not "intolerant". And unlike many PUBLIC school kids I know (and I am not bashing anyone here) I know RIGHT from WRONG. I am not wishy washy in my morals. I am steadfast. Just because someone is homeschooled DOES NOT mean that they are locked in a closet. Do not assume that everyone is like that. Mind you, there are some who will be cultureshocked because they were homeschooled to be kept from the world. There is a way to homeschool. I HATE when people bring in the cultureshock/socialization issue with homeschooling because they are usually basing it off one or two or three cases and then generalize it to the whole state of things. Mind you I do not bash Public school kids. Homeschooling is not for everyone just as Public School/Private school is not for everyone. However, to say the ignorant comment you did in such a absolute manner is idiotic. Tell me CND, why would college be a culture shock vs. highschool? Because the kids mind are more malleable? All the more reason to homeschool...better chance of them learning right from wrong from a Catholic/Christian point of view rather than a secular indifferent point of view like the high schools do around me. Meg Edited June 24, 2008 by picchick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 [quote name='Didymus' post='1581828' date='Jun 24 2008, 06:57 PM']guess that means my parents have done the worst thing they could do to me... and I always thought I made pretty good arguments against all the folks on here with "real" educations... thanks for your arrogance. Not that you'll actually respond to this post, or even bother to read through it. You'll probably just look for the next possible one that you could whine at without reason, just to shame the ideologies of the left, many of which are pretty shameful enough in this day and age without help from those like yourself...[/quote] Word. I was homeschooled my entire life, including High School. Public education isn't the be-all-know-all. Most highschoolers (in public school) that I've witnessed, could barely hold a decent conversation with an adult. Sure, they knew how to talk amongst themselves, but were extremely intimidated or lacked any sort of adaption when it came to socializing with someone twice, or even three times their age. The only thing you learn, in terms of socializing, is how to talk amongst those within your own age group. That's really gonna help in landing a job that deals with varying demographics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 [quote name='picchick' post='1581868' date='Jun 24 2008, 07:11 PM']This is totally not like me... Are you an idiot? Yes, I think you are. I was homeschooled from 6th grade on. I had NO cultureshock whatsoever. You are so totally wrong you make me laugh and be angry at the same time. Do you even know what you are talking about? You don't do you? I am like the most shy person you will ever meet. When I was in PUBLIC school I rarely talked because I was so embarrassed and I would always say the wrong thing. So I learned to keep my mouth shut. In being homeschooled, I was able to reflect on myself and focus on my studies. This in fact made me more confident in my ability to voice my opinion. I am not narrowminded, I am not "intolerant". And unlike many PUBLIC school kids I know (and I am not bashing anyone here) I know RIGHT from WRONG. I am not wishy washy in my morals. I am steadfast. Just because someone is homeschooled DOES NOT mean that they are locked in a closet. Do not assume that everyone is like that. Mind you, there are some who will be cultureshocked because they were homeschooled to be kept from the world. There is a way to homeschool. I HATE when people bring in the cultureshock/socialization issue with homeschooling because they are usually basing it off one or two or three cases and then generalize it to the whole state of things. Mind you I do not bash Public school kids. Homeschooling is not for everyone just as Public School/Private school is not for everyone. However, to say the ignorant comment you did in such a absolute manner is idiotic. Tell me CND, why would college be a culture shock vs. highschool? Because the kids mind are more malleable? All the more reason to homeschool...better chance of them learning right from wrong from a Catholic/Christian point of view rather than a secular indifferent point of view like the high schools do around me. Meg[/quote] WORD!!!! [b]Picchick[/b], I'm liking you more by the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 [quote name='Paladin D' post='1581891' date='Jun 24 2008, 06:19 PM']WORD!!!! [b]Picchick[/b], I'm liking you more by the moment![/quote] thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 [quote name='picchick' post='1581868' date='Jun 24 2008, 05:11 PM']I am like the most shy person you will ever meet. When I was in PUBLIC school I rarely talked because I was so embarrassed and I would always say the wrong thing. So I learned to keep my mouth shut. In being homeschooled, I was able to reflect on myself and focus on my studies. This in fact made me more confident in my ability to voice my opinion.[/quote] And voice your opinion, you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 [quote name='notardillacid' post='1581553' date='Jun 24 2008, 02:38 PM'][/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 the state does not have the authority to require parents to be certified to teach if they wish to teach their own children. the state may offer voluntary certification programs if it is afraid parents are unqualified to teach... it may offer any assistance it wishes to ensure parents teach children correctly, but it does not have the authority to require parents make use of those resources. if the Church is willing to even defer to the authority of parents if they're going to raise their children as pagans or athiests, the state must absolutely be willing to defer to the authority of parents even if they're going to raise their children to be dumbies. but that's clearly not what usually happens, is it? even the most unqualified parent still tends to get better educational results than the public education system. but even if that's not the way it goes, perhaps the parents focus their teaching more on teaching their children a trade and business sense to succeed in the world than math and english and social studies... what gives anyone the idea that the state has any shred of authority to say they can't do that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 i'm beginning to see the merits of homeschooling...i just read that Hitler instituted the ban on homeschooling in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 [quote name='Seven77' post='1582103' date='Jun 24 2008, 06:53 PM']i'm beginning to see the merits of homeschooling...i just read that Hitler instituted the ban on homeschooling in Germany.[/quote] Is that why you see the merits of homeschooling? Or did those thoughts just happen to come out together? (And actually, I did know that, which is why I don't understand why they still cling to that rule). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Why don't they just set up a program to monitor homeschooling systems? Obviously it's more government intereference where it probably isn't needed, but it would help them find that handful of abuse and overly sheltering cases that probably exist. Just have parents apply for a homeschool license. Maybe have them take a test to make sure they know their kid's curriculum. Then have a school officer check in once, twice a year to make sure everything is copacetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 [quote name='Seven77' post='1582103' date='Jun 24 2008, 08:53 PM']i'm beginning to see the merits of homeschooling...i just read that Hitler instituted the ban on homeschooling in Germany.[/quote] Ironically, parents are fighting for their right to homeschool in Germany as we speak. The government has been threatening (and probally already has) taken children away from their parents because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 in light of the Hitler ban/California situation, certain merits of homeschooling come to mind--merits i hadn't thought about before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 [quote name='Seven77' post='1582126' date='Jun 24 2008, 07:06 PM']in light of the Hitler ban/California situation, certain merits of homeschooling come to mind--merits i hadn't thought about before.[/quote] Oookay. That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 yeah this is what got me thinking--- [quote name='Paladin D' post='1582125' date='Jun 24 2008, 07:04 PM']Ironically, parents are fighting for their right to homeschool in Germany as we speak. The government has been threatening (and probally already has) taken children away from their parents because of this.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilac_angel Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Paladin D' post='1580490' date='Jun 23 2008, 04:40 PM']Another reason I don't want to move out to California (no offense to anyone who lives there).[/quote] yeah... this just continues to reinforce my sadness that two of my brothers moved out there from all the way across the country... especially since they already left the Catholic church... one might still be Christian, but that's it. ugh. i can only hope that maybe living there will eventually make them realize how dumb a lot of the ways they do things over there are & come back home... at least back home to the Church. =P on a sidenote, i wouldn't have minded being homeschooled at all... ah well. Edited June 25, 2008 by lilac_angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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