Do You Approve Or Disapprove Of The Job George W. Bush Is Doing?

[kujo]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1568431' date='Jun 11 2008, 03:31 PM']I felt more secure about the country's finances when Clinton was in office. I don't know if that had anything to do with him, or just circumstances. Now, I'm afraid for the financial health of the country.[/quote]

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='kujo' post='1568428' date='Jun 11 2008, 12:30 PM']I am not necessarily disagreeing, but what are you basing your opinion on? Foreign policy? Domestic policy? Economy?[/quote]
All of the above. The economy in the 1990s sucked in comparison to the 1980s, and things today are about the same as they were during Clinton (tech. bubble and all). Foreign policy during Clinton was weak, because he stood for nothing, and he allowed the North Korea nuclear problem to develop in the first place, while he also allowed sensitive technologies to be sold to China. And on top of all of this, Clinton lacked virtue; so much so that he wouldn't know what morality was if it was served to him in his McDonald's french fries.

Edited June 11, 2008 by Apotheoun

[kujo]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1568447' date='Jun 11 2008, 03:50 PM']All of the above. The economy in the 1990s sucked in comparison to the 1980s, and things today are about the same as they were during Clinton (tech. bubble and all). Foreign policy during Clinton was weak, because he stood for nothing, and he allowed the North Korea nuclear problem to develop in the first place, while he also allowed sensitive technologies to be sold to China. And on top of all of this, Clinton lacked virtue; so much so that he wouldn't know what morality was if it was served to him in his McDonald's french fries.[/quote]

I was a little kid during most of Clinton's presidency. In fact, the only things I actually remember about that time period was the bombing of the USS Kole and the Lewinsky stuff. But I've always heard that the economy was booming during Clinton's presidency. He balanced the budget (which Bush I screwed up) and everyone was doing relatively well. Could you cite some stuff on this stuff?

His foreign policy s[i]u[/i]cked!

[geauxsaints26]

[quote name='kujo' post='1568787' date='Jun 11 2008, 08:17 PM']I was a little kid during most of Clinton's presidency. In fact, the only things I actually remember about that time period was the bombing of the USS Kole and the Lewinsky stuff. But I've always heard that the economy was booming during Clinton's presidency. He balanced the budget (which Bush I screwed up) and everyone was doing relatively well. Could you cite some stuff on this stuff?

His foreign policy s[i]u[/i]cked![/quote]


You think Clintons foreign policy sucked? What do you think of W's foreign policy?

Edited June 12, 2008 by geauxsaints26

[Holly3278]

Personally, I disapprove of the job he is doing. If he was doing a better job, the gas prices wouldn't be so high for one thing and we wouldn't be in a war with Iraq that we never should have gotten in to in the first place.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='kujo' post='1568787' date='Jun 11 2008, 06:17 PM']I was a little kid during most of Clinton's presidency. In fact, the only things I actually remember about that time period was the bombing of the USS Kole and the Lewinsky stuff. But I've always heard that the economy was booming during Clinton's presidency. He balanced the budget (which Bush I screwed up) and everyone was doing relatively well. Could you cite some stuff on this stuff?

His foreign policy s[i]u[/i]cked![/quote]
I have lived through a lot more administrations than you have.

The worst was Jimmy Carter, and I feel compelled to say that George W. Bush is brilliant in comparison to Carter.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='kujo' post='1568787' date='Jun 11 2008, 06:17 PM']. . . He balanced the budget (which Bush I screwed up) and everyone was doing relatively well. Could you cite some stuff on this stuff?

His foreign policy s[i]u[/i]cked![/quote]
The Republican Congress moved toward balancing the budget (not Clinton), and did so by simply reducing the growth (sadly not even the Republican Congress was willing to actually reduce spending) in the budget. The Democrats controlled the Congress for 40 straight years prior to 1994, and they bankrupted the country in the process.

Edited June 12, 2008 by Apotheoun

[kujo]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1569537' date='Jun 12 2008, 12:29 PM']I have lived through a lot more administrations than you have.

The worst was Jimmy Carter, and I feel compelled to say that George W. Bush is brilliant in comparison to Carter.[/quote]

I'm sure you have.

And you will find no arguments here about Jimmy Carter. I have been known to breakout in fits of profanity whenever Jimmy Carter is discussed in my various political science classes.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='kujo' post='1569542' date='Jun 12 2008, 09:34 AM']I'm sure you have.

And you will find no arguments here about Jimmy Carter. I have been known to breakout in fits of profanity whenever Jimmy Carter is discussed in my various political science classes.[/quote]
Stagflation nearly destroyed my family, we nearly lost our house and that was when my mother had to get a job. Prior to Carter most women who worked did so because they wanted to do something outside the house, but ever since then they have had to work to help support their families.

Times have been far worse in the past than they are today. We aren't even in a recession, only an economic slow down.

Edited June 12, 2008 by Apotheoun

[Deus te Amat]

I must say that George Bush has done a much better job than either Al Gore or John Kerry would have.


I hate (don't hate, appreciate) it when people complain about him when the alternative was so much worse. I'd like to see what they would do in the same situation... I'm sure most of America would complain about them, too.

[kujo]

[quote name='Deus_te_Amat' post='1569547' date='Jun 12 2008, 12:37 PM']I must say that George Bush has done a much better job than either Al Gore or John Kerry would have.
I hate (don't hate, appreciate) (don't hate (don't hate, appreciate), appreciate) it when people complain about him when the alternative was so much worse. I'd like to see what they would do in the same situation... I'm sure most of America would complain about them, too.[/quote]

How can you substantiate that claim? What methods of analysis are you using?

[Deus te Amat]

[quote name='Holly3278' post='1568903' date='Jun 11 2008, 09:45 PM']Personally, I disapprove of the job he is doing. If he was doing a better job, the gas prices wouldn't be so high for one thing and we wouldn't be in a war with Iraq that we never should have gotten in to in the first place.[/quote]


What you don't realize is that the Democrats in Congress are filibustering bills related to Oil before they even hit the voting floor.

This isn't Bush's fault. If anyone, blame the majority in Congress.

For example, there was one bill filibustered that would have relaxed, but not eliminated, the regulations of drilling in ANWR. There is nothing environmentally wrong with drilling in ANWR. The antelope population, which the democrat party seems to be so concerned about, is thriving near the oil lines because it is warmer there. The population has expanded greatly because of it.

[Didymus]

[quote name='Deus_te_Amat' post='1569557' date='Jun 12 2008, 11:42 AM']What you don't realize is that the Democrats in Congress are filibustering bills related to Oil before they even hit the voting floor.

This isn't Bush's fault. If anyone, blame the majority in Congress.

For example, there was one bill filibustered that would have relaxed, but not eliminated, the regulations of drilling in ANWR. There is nothing environmentally wrong with drilling in ANWR. The antelope population, which the democrat party seems to be so concerned about, is thriving near the oil lines because it is warmer there. The population has expanded greatly because of it.[/quote]

we need relief sooner than that though

[Deus te Amat]

[quote name='Didymus' post='1569558' date='Jun 12 2008, 11:44 AM']we need relief sooner than that though[/quote]


True, but there is only so much relief to be had before they go up again. Do you want the relief now, when it's four bucks a gallon? Or do you want the relief later, when its even higher. The question is When is it too high.

[kujo]

[quote name='Deus_te_Amat' post='1569557' date='Jun 12 2008, 12:42 PM']What you don't realize is that the Democrats in Congress are filibustering bills related to Oil before they even hit the voting floor.

This isn't Bush's fault. If anyone, blame the majority in Congress.

For example, there was one bill filibustered that would have relaxed, but not eliminated, the regulations of drilling in ANWR. There is nothing environmentally wrong with drilling in ANWR. The antelope population, which the democrat party seems to be so concerned about, is thriving near the oil lines because it is warmer there. The population has expanded greatly because of it.[/quote]

While I am a HUGE proponent of drilling in ANWR, the flip side to your argument is that the increased population of the antelope could be having an adverse effect on the ecosystem as a whole. Now, to be honest, I don't give a c[i]r[/i]ap how the freakin' antelope, deer, seal, etc. populations are doing while I pay $4 for a gallon of gas. The animals are cute, but to suggest that we shouldn't explore an alternative to foreign oil because these furry critters are in the area is [b]ludicrous[/b].