Thomas Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 I'm a vegetarian, but that's only because I don't want to support factory farms that abuse God's creation. I have no problem with eating meat, it's just the factory farms that degrade God's creation. And by that stance, I totally support what Mel Gibson is doing. He is raising animals up humanely and not supporting the cruel factory farms. God did give us animals to eat, but not to abuse and degrade... I think Mel is on the right track and I support him wholeheartedly. PETA makes us vegetarians look bad. -Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 I'm a vegetarian, but that's only because I don't want to support factory farms that abuse God's creation. I have no problem with eating meat, it's just the factory farms that degrade God's creation. And by that stance, I totally support what Mel Gibson is doing. He is raising animals up humanely and not supporting the cruel factory farms. God did give us animals to eat, but not to abuse and degrade... I think Mel is on the right track and I support him wholeheartedly. word up, brutha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 (edited) abortion is not the holocaust because, if i remember correctly jews were killed in the holocaust, not unborn babies. thanks for the quotes btw. it does seem like they are elevating animal rights a bit high. but they are upholding my earlier hierarchy: humans > animals > plants > things Holocaust killed 5-6 million jews, 5-6 million catholics, 10 million ukranians, God only who else. The holocaust was a slaughter of innocents. What the hell do you think 40 million babies is? Edited February 29, 2004 by cmotherofpirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 they make me feel smarter everyday :shootme: Agreed. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 What the hell do you think 40 million babies is? ukranian jewish catholics? my original refutation was merely a mockery of her logic: take for example, PETA call animal cruelity the holocaust. thats not true. people died in the holocaust, not animals. the holocaust of today is not chickens in a slaughter but unborn babies being killed in abortion mills from their mother's womb. theres a difference becuz people are dying because of it. ----- anyway, thoughts on PETA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 I'm not sure why you would mock her logic, it made perfect sense to me. Maybe we just read Flowery's posts differently. On to Peta. They're all on crack. The end. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 can i mock your logic now? --a stereotypical generalization of everyone. they MUST be on crack. feel free to mock the reduncancy of the above ^ :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 Mocking my logic in that post is fine I suppose, it was meant to make people laugh rather than get into the actual discussion at hand. Actually, since I wasn't aiming for logic in that portion of my post I guess its pretty stupid to try and mock something that wasn't there to begin with. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 PETA equates animals with humans. Save the whale, kill the baby. PETA uses shock value to proclaim their "message". Because of this, most people find them laughable and pathetic, and therefore any value to their message is lost. Animals should be treated humanely, this is a teaching of the Church starting in Genesis, not something invented by PETA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 PETA never advocates lowering human rights in anyway. therefore, the second half of your claim "Save the whale, kill the baby." is groundless. Animals should be treated humanely, this is a teaching of the Church starting in Genesis, not something invented by PETA. ok, this is true but irrelevant. PETA doesn't claim to invent the idea of treating animals humanely; they just want to uphold that idea, regardless of its origin. p.s. Icey, i know. i was messing around too. hence the double dose of happy faces :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 my mom had a bumper sticker for the longest time that said, "Be a hero, Save a Whale, Save a Baby, Go to Jail." it was very much effective if i may say so myself. -_- and yes cmom, you are very much correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 I know you were kidding Smeagol, hence my "lol." ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 No they equate animals on the level of humans which is pretty much the same thing. I like animals, I am owned by several of them. But they are creatures without an immortal soul, and are subject to us, not equal to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Now hold on. Wait a second here. I happen to be a member of P.E.T.A. People Eating Tasty Animals. Actually I could easily go vegetarian, but I really love seafood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 here is an email i sent them: Stop harrassing Mel Gibson. Especially trying to use the good lord for your effort. remember Gen 9:3 - "Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat; I give them all to you as I did the green plants." You are going to try to protect animals instead of unborn babies. Think about it morons. Foundsheep AkA Alfred Villegas P.S. For every pic on how animals are slaughtered Ill show you an aborted fetus. Killing Babies is murder, Killing a cow makes a great burger! feel free to do the same at info@peta.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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