Guest yndige23 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 So has anyone heard the new Coldplay song 'Viva la viva'.... I can't really figure out what it is getting at with all of the religious overtones. Part of it seems almost anti-Catholic, but I just can't put my finger on what they're trying to get at. Anyway, here are the lyrics: [quote]I used to rule the world Seas would rise when I gave the word Now in the morning I sleep alone Sweep the streets I used to own I used to roll the dice Feel the fear in my enemy’s eyes Listened as the crowd would sing Now the old king is dead long live the king One minute I held the key Next the walls were closed on me And I discovered that my castles stand Upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand I hear Jerusalem bells a-ringing Roman cavalry choirs are singing Be my mirror my sword and shield Missionaries in a foreign field For some reason I can't explain Once you'd gone there was never Never an honest word And that was when I ruled the world It was a wicked and wild wind Blew down the doors to let me in Shattered windows and the sound of drums People couldn’t believe what I’d become Revolutionaries wait For my head on a silver plate Just a puppet on a lonely string Oh who would ever want to be king? I hear Jerusalem bells a-ringing Roman cavalry choirs are singing Be my mirror my sword and shield My missionaries in a foreign field For some reason I can’t explain I know St Peter won’t call my name Never an honest word But that was when I ruled the world Hear Jerusalem bells a-ringing Roman cavalry choirs are singing Be my mirror my sword and shield My missionaries in a foreign field For some reason I can’t explain I know St Peter won’t call my name Never an honest word But that was when I ruled the world[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 [quote name='yndige23' post='1545569' date='May 27 2008, 10:12 PM']So has anyone heard the new Coldplay song 'Viva la viva'.... I can't really figure out what it is getting at with all of the religious overtones. Part of it seems almost anti-Catholic, but I just can't put my finger on what they're trying to get at. Anyway, here are the lyrics:[/quote] I'm pretty sure the "I know St. Peter won't call my name" is a referrence to not being ready to die yet, not a jab at the Church. My sense of this song is that it's written from the perspective of someone watching the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 [size=1]The hardest thing I find with interpreting this song is WHO the speaker is. It almost as if it changes.... It seems pretty possible to me if the speaker in the first 2 stanzas is Jesus himself. To me, the main idea of the song is about how after Jesus left earth, everything felt apart. [i]"Once you'd gone there was never Never an honest word"[/i] [i]"And I discovered that my castles stand Upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand"[/i] This line I believe broadly refers to how Christianity has no real meaning or base in society anymore. (in the opinion of the speaker) [i]"It was a wicked and wild wind Blew down the doors to let me in Shattered windows and the sound of drums People couldn’t believe what I’d become Revolutionaries wait For my head on a silver plate Just a puppet on a lonely string Oh who would ever want to be king?"[/i][/size] [size=1]Could this possibly refer to materialism? The "new" king that people worship? BUt yet they are still using 'Me'...hfsdjkfhlaeusjdg I dunno. Overall though, I think the song definitely has a negative feeling towards Christianity. So does "Violet Hill" which I believe is much easier to interpret. That song in my opinion is extremely beautiful and sad!!!!! [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 [quote name='CrossCuT' post='1545711' date='May 27 2008, 11:21 PM'][size=1]The hardest thing I find with interpreting this song is WHO the speaker is. It almost as if it changes.... It seems pretty possible to me if the speaker in the first 2 stanzas is Jesus himself. To me, the main idea of the song is about how after Jesus left earth, everything felt apart. [i]"Once you'd gone there was never Never an honest word"[/i] [i]"And I discovered that my castles stand Upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand"[/i] This line I believe broadly refers to how Christianity has no real meaning or base in society anymore. (in the opinion of the speaker) [i]"It was a wicked and wild wind Blew down the doors to let me in Shattered windows and the sound of drums People couldn’t believe what I’d become Revolutionaries wait For my head on a silver plate Just a puppet on a lonely string Oh who would ever want to be king?"[/i][/size] [size=1]Could this possibly refer to materialism? The "new" king that people worship? BUt yet they are still using 'Me'...hfsdjkfhlaeusjdg I dunno. Overall though, I think the song definitely has a negative feeling towards Christianity. So does "Violet Hill" which I believe is much easier to interpret. That song in my opinion is extremely beautiful and sad!!!!! [/size][/quote] Good analysis....not sure I buy into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 [size=1]Well...IN GENERAL, without looking too deeply into each stanza alone, I think its about ... well, its hard to explain....allow me to paraphrase!!! 1) I used to rule the world I was powerful Now my Kingdome is empty 2) My people loved me Enemies feared my name But now I find my castles are weak 3) [This one is tricky] - - - Once you left Nothing was ever the same 4) Wicked wind broke through the barriers So that I could enter People couldnt believe what Id become My enemies wait to fight me again -- and then there is that weird puppet reference... Ok now Im starting to see the end of the world imagery.... But only in the 4th stanza. I think we are both right. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 [quote name='CrossCuT' post='1546216' date='May 28 2008, 12:47 PM'][size=1]Well...IN GENERAL, without looking too deeply into each stanza alone, I think its about ... well, its hard to explain....allow me to paraphrase!!! 1) I used to rule the world I was powerful Now my Kingdome is empty 2) My people loved me Enemies feared my name But now I find my castles are weak 3) [This one is tricky] - - - Once you left Nothing was ever the same 4) Wicked wind broke through the barriers So that I could enter People couldnt believe what Id become My enemies wait to fight me again -- and then there is that weird puppet reference... Ok now Im starting to see the end of the world imagery.... But only in the 4th stanza. I think we are both right. [/size][/quote] THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE HIGHLANDER!!! J/K...when I listen to it, I think of America. I think of how our status in the world--our moral high ground, our strength, our perpetual growth and idealism-- has seemed to decline in the past decade or two. I think of the hope we had at the end of the Cold War, when we became the only superpower...when we could do anything. That has all changed now. That's what I thought of. You could be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 [size=1]Have you ever looked at the lyrics to 'Violet Hill'? I think they are both pretty related in the ideas they convey. Now I dont know much about history and social junk (it is not at all my area of expertise), so whatever you just said could be right, could be wrong but there is no way for me to tell. But I still stand by my idea....it seems pretty simple to me. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 anyone download the whole album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 [quote name='kafka' post='1568257' date='Jun 11 2008, 02:04 PM']anyone download the whole album?[/quote] Doesn't come out until next week!! :excited: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 [size=1]I cheated! I listened to most of the new tracks already. I WRECKED it for myself! I feel sick and horrible! But I only listened to them ONCE and not even all the way through, so I dont even remember them!!!! IM SOOOO EXCITED THOUGH Im buying it day 1. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTheRed Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 (edited) IDK if i would buy the album but that commercial is cool [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=19tXpRRGeUg"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=19tXpRRGeUg[/url] Edited June 12, 2008 by EricTheRed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 [size=1]Oh man! That thing gives me the shivers!!!! [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTheRed Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith 1st Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I agree with EricTheRed.....I bought the song on iTunes and have listened to it alot.... Along with other stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTheRed Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 check this out i just came across this, these guys are good [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lio0YbTi87g&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lio0YbTi87g...feature=related[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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