Hillary Said What?

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1540655' date='May 24 2008, 05:26 PM']That's exactly how it sounds. She's kinda dumb. She played this all wrong. What she should have done was bowed out of the race gracefully, kissed Obama's a** for the VP ticket, became VP, then shot Obama herself. THEN, she'd have become President!

(I'm being sarcastic of course. I don't want anyone to shoot Obama. I just want him to go away.)[/quote]


this is weird, but I had the same exact thoughts!!!

[Adrestia]

even Gore knew when to give up... and he actually had a more legitimate claim.

(please note my use of the adjective "more" is used in comparison to Hillary's claim, not to his opponent)

[kujo]

I didn't get the connection until just now. She implied that someone could shoot Obama? Even if that happened, she'd have the next most delegates and would be given the nomination regardless of whether or not she was in the race.

Ugh...this woman is insane!

[Apotheoun]

Hillary + the presidency = nuts

[kujo]

[quote]Hillary Clinton continued to parse her poorly-worded remarks about Bobby Kennedy’s June 1968 assassination, insisting Sunday that she meant no harm by the reference and is not a quitter even when the deck is stacked against her.

Clinton faced considerable backlash in the media and earned quick criticism from Barack Obama’s campaign on Friday after she gave the year of Kennedy’s assassination as an example of a long campaign season and an explanation for why she’s staying in the Democratic presidential primary race.

In response to the uproar, she wrote in Sunday editions of The New York Daily News that her comments were taken out of context and deliberately misinterpreted.

“I want to set the record straight: I was making the simple point that given our history, the length of this year’s primary contest is nothing unusual. Both the executive editor of the newspaper where I made the remarks, and Sen. Kennedy’s son, Bobby Kennedy Jr., put out statements confirming that this was the clear meaning of my remarks,” she wrote.

Referencing his father’s assassination, in a statement issued late Friday, Bobby Kennedy Jr. wrote, “It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband’s 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense.”

In her Sunday editorial, Clinton continued, “I realize that any reference to that traumatic moment for our nation can be deeply painful - particularly for members of the Kennedy family, who have been in my heart and prayers over this past week. And I expressed regret right away for any pain I caused. But I was deeply dismayed and disturbed that my comment would be construed in a way that flies in the face of everything I stand for - and everything I am fighting for in this election.”[/quote]

Source: [url="http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/25/clinton-defends-rfk-analogy-tries-to-move-on/"]FoxNews.com[/url]

I think it's funny that she makes a gaffe, and wants everyone to be understanding and "move on" while, when Obama makes one (or his pastor makes one) and she seizes on him like fly to poo!

[Apotheoun]

Hillary is a political solipsist.

[kujo]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1541746' date='May 25 2008, 03:06 PM']Hillary is a political solipsist.[/quote]

Haha. Had to look that one up, but it seems pretty appropriate.

[kujo]

[quote]Members of the Kennedy family are incensed over Hillary Rodham Clinton's invoking the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy to explain why she's staying in the race - and they think it could be the death knell of an increasingly desperate and sloppy campaign.

"That comment may be the last nail in her campaign's coffin," a Kennedy relative told The Post. "How can Hillary even use the experience argument when she repeatedly pushes the wrong buttons in her comments?"

An insider added, "I think people really felt that a line was crossed and that her campaign - and even her legitimacy as a politician - ended today."

Said a second relative, "She no longer has only her husband to blame for the ill-chosen comments coming from her camp."

While Robert Kennedy Jr. immediately came out in support of Sen. Clinton on Friday, others in the family's inner circle are fuming.

One cited "a perceived insensitivity" in her comment, made Friday before a South Dakota newspaper's editorial board, especially with the 40th anniversary of RFK's death two weeks away and Sen. Ted Kennedy battling a brain tumor.

"We were all sort of dumbfounded that she would say such a thing," the insider said.

There was also anger outside the family. Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY), a Hillary supporter, told Bloomberg News that she said "the dumbest thing you could have possibly said." And the Rev. Al Sharpton ripped the comment as dangerous.

The Kennedy family insider added: "I know that many Clinton supporters in New York and New Jersey are sickened by her comments and that they are more concerned with Senator Kennedy's health and well-being than they are her campaign anymore.

Clinton was explaining why she was still in the race against Sen. Barack Obama when she said: "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June. Right?"

Then she added: "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California."

That line, which she later said was meant to convey the fact that nomination battles can extend late into the primary season, also sparked outrage for touching upon Obama's personal safety.

It was also just plain inaccurate, say historians, noting that Clinton's drawn-out battle with Obama in a seemingly endless primary season is nothing like the 1968 and 1992 Democratic campaigns.

Bobby Kennedy was not in the midst of a long-fought primary battle when he was assassinated. He entered the race on March 16, 1968, less than three months before the June 5 shooting.

As for Bill Clinton, despite his wife's perceptions, he'd won the nomination long before mid-June 1992. The race was essentially over by March 20, when Paul Tsongas dropped out and Clinton became the front-runner with a 7-to-1 delegate lead over Jerry Brown.

Obama, meanwhile, plans to give the commencement speech at Wesleyan University's graduation today in Connecticut, replacing the ailing Ted Kennedy.

Obama will be greeted by an unprecedented amount of security. The ceremony will be closed to the public, and guests will have to go through metal detectors.

One presidential historian thinks Clinton's loose-lipped reference to assassination raises the danger of someone's targeting Obama.

"Everybody, in the back of their minds, has been thinking of this, that Senator Obama could be in danger," said Rick Shenkman, a professor at George Mason University in Virginia.

"Now it's out there. It only takes one psycho."

In a radio interview yesterday in Puerto Rico, Obama said that he had accepted the apology Clinton issued Friday and that her comment about RFK was just "careless."[/quote]

Source: [url="http://www.nypost.com/seven/05252008/news/nationalnews/kennedys_feel_bobby_socked_112469.htm"]NYPost.com[/url]

[Adrestia]

[quote name='kujo' post='1541716' date='May 25 2008, 12:38 PM']I think it's funny that she makes a gaffe, and wants everyone to be understanding and "move on" while, when Obama makes one (or his pastor makes one) and she seizes on him like fly to poo![/quote]Most politicians make a big deal each other's gaffes. If they don't, their staff/supporters do. And Obama's pastor certainly made more than one... if you could even call his statements gaffes.

[kujo]

[quote name='tgoldson' post='1541993' date='May 25 2008, 06:51 PM']Most politicians make a big deal each other's gaffes. If they don't, their staff/supporters do. And Obama's pastor certainly made more than one... if you could even call his statements gaffes.[/quote]

I was more referencing the hypocrisy. I was hoping my intention was clear enough so as to avoid the obvious comments you made.