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Thy Geekdom Come

[quote name='Deb' post='1534951' date='May 20 2008, 04:13 PM']So what if they do? If it doesn't kill them, let them go.

Boy, am I ever glad I grew up in an age where you could actually leave your house without a guard.[/quote]
Easy to say when you don't have Protecting God's Children breathing down your neck. ;)

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[quote name='StColette' post='1534980' date='May 20 2008, 04:35 PM']My kids will have a curfew. Not because I'm a meanie head, but because I love them and want them to be safe.[/quote]
Meanie head...funsucker.

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[quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1535011' date='May 20 2008, 05:54 PM']The mud of WYD '02!!!! Quite an experiance. Were you far back enough to smell the porta potties...UGGG HORRIBLE!

And as far as steubenville...as many times as I've been there I've always used the gym. Its just better...plus there are other chaperones who stay up all night patrolling. You'd have to be on crack to try something.[/quote]

Dude, we didn't even have a tent at WYD. We built one out of those sticks and ropes they had and used our ponchos and old t-shirts. That held up for about 38 seconds once the monsoon hit. Luckily, the group next to us had a Noah's ark-sized blue tarp that they invited us into. The next morning, our stuff was DESTROYED!

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[quote name='Raphael' post='1535022' date='May 20 2008, 05:05 PM']Meanie head...funsucker.[/quote]

yep! Wanna go swimming after work? lol

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[quote name='StColette' post='1535034' date='May 20 2008, 05:17 PM']yep! Wanna go swimming after work? lol[/quote]
Sure.

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CatherineM

I remember going to those kind of messy outdoor events when I was younger. Probably before most of you were born. My favorite was Mexico City in January 1979. My Godmother drug me with her to drive to see a special guest.

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Autumn Dusk

[quote]Dude, we didn't even have a tent at WYD. We built one out of those sticks and ropes they had and used our ponchos and old t-shirts. That held up for about 38 seconds once the monsoon hit. Luckily, the group next to us had a Noah's ark-sized blue tarp that they invited us into. The next morning, our stuff was DESTROYED![/quote]

No one had a tent...if I remember correctly they were banned.

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[quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1535105' date='May 20 2008, 07:08 PM']No one had a tent...if I remember correctly they were banned.[/quote]

Maybe. People seemed to have better stuff than we did, though. Like our friendly neighbors from Oregon who saved us from "the flood."

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I guess I just look at it this way. If your child is on high school trip and you let your child know what you expect of them, you shouldn't have to have their doors taped.

If you don't trust them, don't let them go.

I guess I was just saying that I was lucky to grow up where our parents did not HAVE to worry that if I was downtown after dark I would get killed or that if I went out running the neighborhood for six hours on Saturday, I had to be checked on every five minutes by cell phone. How soul killing is all of that?

If you immediately put sneaking out of your room to go making out with someone with getting killed, how freaky is that?

Also, if the tape does not keep anyone from getting out, just lets them know someone did, how will that stop anyone from doing anything anyway? Fear of the broken tape?
It just all seems so overprotective and stifling to me.

No, I don't work with kids but, if I did and I let them know what they would and would not be doing, I would know what they would and would not be doing.

By the way, I would have been the kid sneaking out but, I would have done it without messing with the silly tape anyway. :lol_roll: Word

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DiscerningSoul

I did security at a school and I know when they went for overnights out of state they hired a guard(not me of course).
I would do the tape trick with scotch tape sometimes to make sure the doors in the back weren't opened while I was across campus locking other doors.
Someone would have to be really weak not to be able to get out of a door with duck tape on it.

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fides quarens intellectum

[quote name='Raphael' post='1534822' date='May 20 2008, 01:28 PM']This is pretty standard youth ministry procedure.[/quote]

that's what i was going to say.

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1534826' date='May 20 2008, 01:43 PM']+J.M.J.+
i've actually never had to do something like this. my students know me and know the penalties if they happened to be out of their room. never had a problem yet. :)[/quote]

ooh - chills... i agreed to take some "cousins" once with our group down to Florida on a beach retreat - tape very necessary.

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[quote name='DiscerningSoul' post='1535435' date='May 20 2008, 11:05 PM']Someone would have to be really weak not to be able to get out of a door with duck tape on it.[/quote]

Duck tape?!?!?!?

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fides quarens intellectum

Now that i think about it, once, on the last night of a trip, all the teens got together, pulled off their little pieces of tape from their doors, then went to my room and used the tape pieces to write, "We love you, Fides." (well, with my real name). i love youth ministry.

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[quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1535011' date='May 20 2008, 03:54 PM']The mud of WYD '02!!!! Quite an experiance. Were you far back enough to smell the porta potties...UGGG HORRIBLE!

And as far as steubenville...as many times as I've been there I've always used the gym. Its just better...plus there are other chaperones who stay up all night patrolling. You'd have to be on crack to try something.[/quote]
Our leader kept us on the asphalt, specifically because he didn't want to deal with mud. Apparently in Rome he had gotten to deal with it and wasn't up for a repeat.

[quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1535105' date='May 20 2008, 05:08 PM']No one had a tent...if I remember correctly they were banned.[/quote]
People had tents. Our group didn't, but some guy next to us did, and let a few of us got to sleep in it (me being one of them). The rest of our group had tarps set up.

[quote name='Deb' post='1535228' date='May 20 2008, 07:08 PM']I guess I just look at it this way. If your child is on high school trip and you let your child know what you expect of them, you shouldn't have to have their doors taped.

If you don't trust them, don't let them go.

I guess I was just saying that I was lucky to grow up where our parents did not HAVE to worry that if I was downtown after dark I would get killed or that if I went out running the neighborhood for six hours on Saturday, I had to be checked on every five minutes by cell phone. How soul killing is all of that?

If you immediately put sneaking out of your room to go making out with someone with getting killed, how freaky is that?

Also, if the tape does not keep anyone from getting out, just lets them know someone did, how will that stop anyone from doing anything anyway? Fear of the broken tape?
It just all seems so overprotective and stifling to me.

No, I don't work with kids but, if I did and I let them know what they would and would not be doing, I would know what they would and would not be doing.

By the way, I would have been the kid sneaking out but, I would have done it without messing with the silly tape anyway. :lol_roll: Word[/quote]
a) The way a teenager behaves at home and the way a teenager behaves on a trip half way across the country can be two very different things.
b)If the parents are this upset that their children could've supposedly been trapped during a fire, how upset do you think they'd be if their kids DID leave and something happened to them. The school would be in so much trouble. And sadly, many parents aren't responsible enough to know what their child is apt to do anyway.
c)They don't usually have enough chaperones to know what everyone is doing all the time.
d)I do agree with you that if the kids want to get out, they will find another way. I know of a guy in my brother's class who snuck out the hotel window and climbed down balconies to go out and buy some sort of game console.

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