ironmonk Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 CHOICE? Mother: "It`s my body!" BABY: "NO! IT`S MY BODY!" Choice is possible only when all the alternatives we face are morally valid. When the "choice" is between letting an innocent human being live or killing him, only one morally valid position is possible. The alternative is the satanic act of taking an innocent life. In the area of life and death, "choice" is a misplaced word. If we`re going to choose well, then we can choose only the good, the true, the beautiful - life. To choose against the good, the true, the beautiful, and life, is to turn against right reason, public order and common decency - against our very selves. Not even that Paladin of death, Jack Kevorkian, would associate himself with the slogan "Choose Death"! The right of a woman to control her own body is precisely the right that the Supreme Court of Canada created in 1988. But it is a false and poisonous right. What legitimate right requires for its exercise the infliction of pain and, further, that everytime it is exercised someone dies? We Knights often hear advocates of choice fervently proclaim that it`s up to each and everyone of us to determine for ourselves if abortion is right or wrong. This kind of ridiculous rejection of an objective standard of right and wrong would logically prevent us from admitting the least moral distinction between Adolf Hitler and Mother Teresa. What we are seeing today is the fundamental dishonesty of refusing to let words have their meaning. In fact, as has been pointed out, the very use of the term "choice" is a lie - the killing of other people not being a matter of choice. There`s no getting away from it: To be pro-choice is to be pro-abortion. To be pro-choice is to want to deny what abortion does. To be pro-choice is to want to hide the humanity of the child. To be pro-choice is to want to decide who is human or a person. Who could possible want to live by such anti-social moral principles? Sadly, for Canadians, it would appear an increasing number of people. For too long, we Knights have allowed many of our Christian brothers and sisters to cherish superstition in the face of scientific and moral truth. Let`s not be afraid to speak out anymore and let`s not miss any opportunity to hurl this prevailing evil, pro-choice philosophy back to hell where it came from. by Thaddée Renault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Yay! A Canadian Knight! Who is amesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted February 27, 2004 Author Share Posted February 27, 2004 Abortionists claim that the unborn child is just tissue of the mother... If the unborn child was just tissue, then the DNA fingerprint would match the mother's DNA fingerprint. The DNA from the time of conception is a totally different DNA map of a human being. How can the unborn child be a piece of tissue? We should sue the supreme court for wrongful death of over 43,000,000 people. Your Servant in Christ, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FX2 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 i always dont like it that much when i get in arguments with pro choicers. They always use the same excuces. I agree with you 100% monk on what u gotta say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 In college, my response to the "it's a woman's choice" argument was to make a poster with a picture of an aborted baby and adding the caption "What kind of CHOICE is this?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Your Constitution protects Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Property in that order. Life trumps Liberty. It shouldn't be a mother's choice. It was her choice before conception. (in almost all cases) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Dontcha mean pursuit of happines? Or am I totally mixed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 We should sue the supreme court for wrongful death of over 43,000,000 people. or should we convict 43 million women of murder ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 or should we convict 43 million women of murder ? and thousands of doctors and nurses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Every single one of the Nazi's in the Jewish genocide were held liable that participated. This genocide has already killed more people. Yes, I do think the mothers should stand trial for murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsFrozen Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I agree that the doctors and nurses, at least, should be convicted of murder, as well as some of the women. The punishment for many of the women, however, is living a life with a nagging, guilty conscious torturing them and reminding them of the murder they committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Dontcha mean pursuit of happines? Or am I totally mixed up? Same thing. I think property is the original or intended wording. The Fathers of American Confederation were rich guys, after more riches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 they say they are "pro-choice" because for some reason, "anti-life" sounds so negative. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 CHOICE? Mother: "It`s my body!" BABY: "NO! IT`S MY BODY!" Choice is possible only when all the alternatives we face are morally valid. When the "choice" is between letting an innocent human being live or killing him, only one morally valid position is possible. The alternative is the satanic act of taking an innocent life. In the area of life and death, "choice" is a misplaced word. If we`re going to choose well, then we can choose only the good, the true, the beautiful - life. To choose against the good, the true, the beautiful, and life, is to turn against right reason, public order and common decency - against our very selves. Not even that Paladin of death, Jack Kevorkian, would associate himself with the slogan "Choose Death"! The right of a woman to control her own body is precisely the right that the Supreme Court of Canada created in 1988. But it is a false and poisonous right. What legitimate right requires for its exercise the infliction of pain and, further, that everytime it is exercised someone dies? We Knights often hear advocates of choice fervently proclaim that it`s up to each and everyone of us to determine for ourselves if abortion is right or wrong. This kind of ridiculous rejection of an objective standard of right and wrong would logically prevent us from admitting the least moral distinction between Adolf Hitler and Mother Teresa. What we are seeing today is the fundamental dishonesty of refusing to let words have their meaning. In fact, as has been pointed out, the very use of the term "choice" is a lie - the killing of other people not being a matter of choice. There`s no getting away from it: To be pro-choice is to be pro-abortion. To be pro-choice is to want to deny what abortion does. To be pro-choice is to want to hide the humanity of the child. To be pro-choice is to want to decide who is human or a person. Who could possible want to live by such anti-social moral principles? Sadly, for Canadians, it would appear an increasing number of people. For too long, we Knights have allowed many of our Christian brothers and sisters to cherish superstition in the face of scientific and moral truth. Let`s not be afraid to speak out anymore and let`s not miss any opportunity to hurl this prevailing evil, pro-choice philosophy back to hell where it came from. by Thaddée Renault cool ironmonk, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Same thing. I think property is the original or intended wording. The Fathers of American Confederation were rich guys, after more riches. that's not what it was about. read up on your Locke. not only do we need political freedom. we need economic freedom as well. that's what that means in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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