Madame Vengier Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1531047' date='May 16 2008, 11:22 PM']He's not lying about doing something about abortion.[/quote] ??????????????????????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1531132' date='May 17 2008, 06:21 AM']Wow, you're really in deep.[/quote] Well, didn't you know that when its a democrat candidate and its just a small percentage of abortions its ok? (forget the fact that the man supports all forms of abortion.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1531065' date='May 16 2008, 11:48 PM']That priest is retired and a good friend of many of our civic leaders. Ok, getting away from politics for quick second, I want to say something about the venue Sen Obama spoke in Watertown. We aren't that "hickish." I've live here in SD all my 18 years and I can't say I've ever felt so corny.[/quote] [mod]personal attack - Lil Red[/mod] Edited May 18, 2008 by Lil Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='Lil Red' post='1531069' date='May 16 2008, 11:52 PM']+J.M.J.+ [url="http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/01/top-10-reasons.html"]Here's a good piece from Jill Stanek. [/url] She has written a lot about Obama's support of this heinous act. if obama can't be trusted with just born babies, how can he be trusted at all?[/quote] That link is great. I'm glad to have it. I hope people will read that and give careful consideration to what is being said there. For example, these two paragraphs from the first part of the post: [b]Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a - child, a nine-month-old - child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it - it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute. For that purpose, I think it would probably be found unconstitutional.[/b] What we are seeing there is Obama using words like "child", "kill", "person", "entitled" and "equal protection" as if they are statements of fact. What he is saying (people need to REALLY understand this is not the usual pro-choice "it's just a blob of cells" or "can't survive on its own" defense for abortion) is that if this ban was instituted then the law would have to give equal protection to this child who is entitled to all the same rights as any other person. [b]Obama is FULLY acknowledging the person-hood of the viable child and that the ban would forbid the killing of it. Yet he VOTES AGAINST THE BAN ANYWAY.[/b] This is so heinous and so barbaric that even your average run-of-the-mill abortion rights advocate would shudder. It is the admission of life and of rights and of equal protection but choosing to kill ANYWAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1531019' date='May 16 2008, 10:48 PM']You thought the President of the United States has sole power to overturn Roe v. Wade? Man, he's got power, but he ain't got THAT much power.[/quote] As my dad says, "I wish Bush had all the power that people seem to think he has, because then he'd be able to do a LOT more." (That was after everyone started blaming him for the vaccine shortage and hurricane Katrina, etc) [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1531039' date='May 16 2008, 11:11 PM']Partial birth abortion, is a issue His Honor and I disagree on. It should also be noted that this procdure is a very small minority of all abortions preformed.[/quote] Where is the honor in being a baby killer? [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1531047' date='May 16 2008, 11:22 PM']He's not lying about doing something about abortion.[/quote] Yeah, he'll promote it and UNDO the strides Bush HAS made on the abortion front. [quote name='the_rev' post='1531084' date='May 17 2008, 12:03 AM']I'm trying to grasp how a Barack Hussein Obama event was a part of history? You know how many campaign stumps he does in a day, and how many he will eventually do over the election season? By next week people will have forgotten about Watertown, South Dakota and will focus on wherever Obama is. Although, this was the first time he allowed people to share their stories, I don't see how that is "historical" its just good political strategy. Defintily that lady who talked about health care had no idea what she was talking about.[/quote] I think I was more of a part of history when I started laughing so hard I snorted at the Medora Musical, and almost threw off the performer, who then just incorporated me in his act! [quote name='goldenchild17' post='1531099' date='May 17 2008, 12:41 AM']madame are you ripping on the Vikings now? tsk tsk [/quote] OH MY GOODNESS! That post needs to be moderated! I am sooo offended, because I'm from Minnesota and we have Vikings in our history! How could she be so insensitive? Edited May 17, 2008 by MissScripture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='CatholicCid' post='1531094' date='May 17 2008, 01:23 AM']Does any of it make sense? No. But, as a mob mentalitity, if everyone is excited and going with it, it doesn't have to.[/quote] How fitting that the rally was at a place that normally houses sheep and cattle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted May 17, 2008 Author Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='the_rev' post='1531084' date='May 17 2008, 01:03 AM']I'm trying to grasp how a Barack Hussein Obama event was a part of history? You know how many campaign stumps he does in a day, and how many he will eventually do over the election season? By next week people will have forgotten about Watertown, South Dakota and will focus on wherever Obama is. Although, this was the first time he allowed people to share their stories, I don't see how that is "historical" its just good political strategy. Defintily that lady who talked about health care had no idea what she was talking about.[/quote] He addressed the allegation that the President of the US made in front of the Israeli Knessett. And he did that in a livestock arena in Watertown SD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Barack Obama would truly make history if changed his position on abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [url="http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19654"]http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19654[/url] [url="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18647"]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18647[/url] [url="http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_18972.shtml"]http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_18972.shtml[/url] [url="http://ncregister.com/site/article/obama_vs_right_to_life/"]http://ncregister.com/site/article/obama_vs_right_to_life/[/url] [url="http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/feb/08022805.html"]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/feb/08022805.html[/url] [url="http://www.politicaltruthandfact.com/nbishop/2008/04/friday-april-25.html"]http://www.politicaltruthandfact.com/nbish...y-april-25.html[/url] Should this man become the next Prez, than, congratulations, catholicinsd, you can say you were part of this very dark history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1531013' date='May 16 2008, 11:43 PM']Abortion is still legal 8 years into Bush.[/quote] and that gives you perfect reason to support another pro-choice candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1531135' date='May 17 2008, 06:28 AM'][mod]personal attack - Lil Red[/mod][/quote] Wow. You are so incredibly rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamin Catholic Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 pot meet kettle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='Roamin_Catholic' post='1531337' date='May 17 2008, 12:55 PM']pot meet kettle[/quote] How am I rude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercy me Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='CatholicCid' post='1531048' date='May 17 2008, 12:22 AM']Is that directed at me? I'm against abortion. Obama is not. I cannot and will not vote for Obama. If not directed at me, disregard [/quote] Oops! Definitely not aimed at you. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 [quote name='kujo' post='1531352' date='May 17 2008, 10:04 AM']How am I rude?[/quote] The definition of what is or is not rude is somewhat subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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