White Knight Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 [img]http://elections.foxnews.com/files/2008/05/hagee_headshot.jpg[/img] [url="http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/13/pastor-hagee-apologizes-for-anti-catholic-remarks/"]The Full Story Here[/url] [i][quote]Televangelist John Hagee, one of John McCain’s highest-profile supporters from the religious right, has apologized for calling the Roman Catholic Church “the great whore” and “the apostate church.” In a letter Monday to Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Civil and Religious Rights, Hagee wrote, “I want to express my deep regret for any comments that Catholics have found hurtful.” Pastor Hagee, leader of San Antonio’s Cornerstone Church, had said his anti-Catholic remarks had been taken out of context, but in the letter he appeared to own up to them. “Neither of these phrases can be synonymous with the Catholic Church,” he wrote. Donohue, accepting the apology, said on FOX News Radio: “I’m absolutely delighted … I haven’t seen such a quick turnaround in the 15 years that I have been president of the Catholic League.” He said he plans to meet with Hagee on Thursday. Likening Hagee to two New York shock jocks who encouraged a pair of listeners to attempt to have sex in St. Patrick’s Cathedral in 2002, Donohue added that he is receptive to honest apologies. “We’re not in the business of rejecting apologies whether it’s from Opie and Anthony or Pastor Hagee so now when we meet we can understand that this issue is moot and behind us and I think it’s a great moment that we can have some degree of reconciliation.” Hagee’s endorsement in February had been difficult for McCain, as Democrats, Donohue and others called on the presumptive GOP nominee to reject the pastor’s support. McCain, who has taken pains to gain the trust of the religious right, rejected specific statements from Hagee — namely about the Catholic Church and blaming the sinful behavior of New Orleans residents for Hurricane Katrina — but would not denounce the pastor. Hagee apologized for the Katrina statements a couple weeks ago, saying it’s not his place to try to know the mind of God concerning the natural disaster. Donohue, who in February said that Hagee “has waged an unrelenting war against the Catholic Church,” said in a statement Tuesday that their feud is now history. “The tone of Hagee’s letter is sincere. He wants reconciliation and he has achieved it,” Donohue said, adding that Hagee has spent “weeks” meeting with Catholic leaders. “Indeed, the Catholic League welcomes his apology,” he wrote. “What Hagee has done takes courage and quite frankly I never expected him to demonstrate such sensitivity to our concerns. But he has done just that. Now Catholics, along with Jews, can work with Pastor Hagee in making interfaith relations stronger than ever. Whatever problems we had before are now history. This case is closed.” Hagee is firmly pro-Israel and has praised McCain for sharing his values to that end. But he has condemned Catholics for what he sees as efforts to persecute Jews. In his 2006 book “Jerusalem Countdown,” Hagee wrote that history proves Adolf Hitler and the Catholic Church were linked “in a conspiracy to exterminate the Jews.” In his letter to Donohue, Hagee indicated he no longer believes in such historical links. “In my zeal to oppose anti-Semitism and bigotry in all its ugly forms, I have often emphasized the darkest chapters in the history of Catholic and Protestant relations with the Jews,” he wrote. “In the process, I may have contributed to the mistaken impression that the anti-Jewish violence of the Crusades and the Inquisition defines the Catholic Church. It most certainly does not. Likewise, I have not sufficiently expressed my deep appreciation for the efforts of Catholics who opposed the persecution of the Jewish people.” McCain continues to accept Hagee’s endorsement, and his campaign rejects any attempts to draw comparisons between Hagee’s controversial remarks and those of Barack Obama’s former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. Donohue told FOX News Radio that both McCain and Obama “have both gotten some bad advice on how to handle certain people who are close to them.”[/quote][/i] What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praying4carmel Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) I think he's [mod]language and personal attack - Lil Red[/mod] Not very Loving of me..Huh? He Has Never Liked us. He's only backtracking because of McCain. [url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/29/john-hagees-mccain-endor_n_89189.html"]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/29/j...or_n_89189.html[/url] Watch the video. Edited May 13, 2008 by Lil Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Vengier Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I think he's John McCain's "Reverend Wright" and a phony and a disgusting bigot. No one makes such a disgusting comment and then goes "I didn't mean it". Oh, he meant it. I agree with P4C...he's backpedaling. And that's almost as gross as the original comment, because it's so glaringly obvious. And he thinks Catholics are geniuses that would fall for this false turnabout. But here's the greater problem: Republicans don't have another option besides McCain. It really is all so futile anyway because there's no way John McCain is going to beat Barack Obama. And Hillary isn't going to beat him either. So, Obama is going to be our next President and none of this "whore of Babylon" stuff really makes a difference. We're totally scr*wed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praying4carmel Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1527369' date='May 13 2008, 07:07 PM']I think he's John McCain's "Reverend Wright" and a phony and a disgusting bigot. No one makes such a disgusting comment and then goes "I didn't mean it". Oh, he meant it. I agree with P4C...he's backpedaling. And that's almost as gross as the original comment, because it's so glaringly obvious. And he thinks Catholics are geniuses that would fall for this false turnabout. But here's the greater problem: Republicans don't have another option besides McCain. It really is all so futile anyway because there's no way John McCain is going to beat Barack Obama. And Hillary isn't going to beat him either. So, Obama is going to be our next President and none of this "whore of Babylon" stuff really makes a difference. We're totally scr*wed.[/quote] I'm still thinking it Might be Huckabee..eventually.... Colorado Springs is Just too Powerful. Talk about the REAL whore of Babylon! Edited May 13, 2008 by praying4carmel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 [quote name='Madame Vengier' post='1527369' date='May 13 2008, 06:07 PM']I think he's John McCain's "Reverend Wright" and a phony and a disgusting bigot. No one makes such a disgusting comment and then goes "I didn't mean it". Oh, he meant it. I agree with P4C...he's backpedaling. And that's almost as gross as the original comment, because it's so glaringly obvious. And he thinks Catholics are geniuses that would fall for this false turnabout. But here's the greater problem: Republicans don't have another option besides McCain. It really is all so futile anyway because there's no way John McCain is going to beat Barack Obama. And Hillary isn't going to beat him either. So, Obama is going to be our next President and none of this "whore of Babylon" stuff really makes a difference. We're totally scr*wed.[/quote] First off, there's a major difference between this guy and Rev. Wright-- he offered, and John McCain accepted, the endorsement but McCain hasn't been under the spiritual tutelage of the man for 20 years. That being said, we cannot know his soul. If he apologized, we are forced to accept it because that is what Jesus told us to. If he is insincere, let Jesus (and Mary) take care of him. I agree with Donohue...the issue is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praying4carmel Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) Sorry for the attack.. Personal Hot Button.. P4C Thanks for letting me keep the emoticon..it says eveything! Edited May 13, 2008 by praying4carmel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 [quote name='praying4carmel' post='1527380' date='May 13 2008, 06:19 PM']Sorry for the attack.. Personal Hot Button.. P4C Thanks for letting me keep the emoticon..it says eveything![/quote] Haha. There are a few things that get me going like that...take, for instance, anything that Ted Kennedy says! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praying4carmel Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 [quote name='kujo' post='1527411' date='May 13 2008, 07:49 PM']Haha. There are a few things that get me going like that...take, for instance, anything that Ted Kennedy says![/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 [quote name='praying4carmel' post='1527417' date='May 13 2008, 06:52 PM'][/quote] Seriously, I have been known to scream inappropriate things and throw pieces of footwear at the television whenever he is on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praying4carmel Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 [quote name='kujo' post='1527421' date='May 13 2008, 07:54 PM']Seriously, I have been known to scream inappropriate things and throw pieces of footwear at the television whenever he is on it.[/quote] How many TV's Have you gone thru?? Chapp.....a.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 [quote name='praying4carmel' post='1527445' date='May 13 2008, 07:07 PM']How many TV's Have you gone thru?? Chapp.....a....[/quote] Haha. Well, I have yet to break one yet, though Ted Kennedy (and the New York Giants, at times) are working hard to accomplish it. Seriously, my "hat throw" has built a cult following amongst my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Lame. Sorry Maybe I should say "Politicos!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 [quote name='Sacred Music Man' post='1527743' date='May 14 2008, 12:23 AM']Lame. Sorry Maybe I should say "Politicos!"[/quote] You're probably right, SMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 (edited) [quote name='White Knight' post='1527313' date='May 13 2008, 03:27 PM'][img]http://elections.foxnews.com/files/2008/05/hagee_headshot.jpg[/img] [url="http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/13/pastor-hagee-apologizes-for-anti-catholic-remarks/"]The Full Story Here[/url] [i][/i] What do you guys think?[/quote] maybe he's sincere, and maybe I'm cynical, but it seems all the big wigs (no matter what field) are always apologizing whenever they say something unpopular. Maybe he's changed, and if so great, and without any other outside evidence I'll take him at his word, but for some reason I have a feeling he's just caving to pressure and I wish people would just stand up for what they believe, no matter what it happens to be. Edited May 14, 2008 by goldenchild17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 [quote name='praying4carmel' post='1527371' date='May 13 2008, 04:10 PM']Colorado Springs is Just too Powerful. Talk about the REAL whore of Babylon![/quote] Watch yourself. Them fightin words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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