Braveheart

[kujo]

Come on....it has everything you could want in a movie:

Action, romance, comedy, suspense, mystery, morals, Catholicism....MEL GIBSON!!!!

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='kujo' post='1521175' date='May 7 2008, 02:27 AM']Come on....it has everything you could want in a movie:

Action, romance, comedy, suspense, mystery, morals, Catholicism....MEL GIBSON!!!![/quote]

Morals? Sorry, i really used to love the movie. But why did they have to twist history, make the princess older, and throw in an affair?

[kujo]

[quote name='fides quarens intellectum' post='1521246' date='May 7 2008, 12:03 PM']Morals? Sorry, i really used to love the movie. But why did they have to twist history, make the princess older, and throw in an affair? [/quote]

Yeah, that is a stain on an otherwise-perfect movie.

I find the torture seen to be reminiscent of the Passion of our Lord.

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='kujo' post='1521301' date='May 7 2008, 11:11 AM']Yeah, that is a stain on an otherwise-perfect movie.[/quote]

i agree.

[CatherineM]

It was rated one step below morally offensive by the USCCB. The part where he is drawn and quartered really freaked me out. I'm delicate.

[kujo]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1521456' date='May 7 2008, 04:53 PM']It was rated one step below morally offensive by the USCCB. The part where he is drawn and quartered really freaked me out. I'm delicate.[/quote]

I don't care what they say, generally. They gave the same rating to Brokeback Mountain before it was nationally released.

[Galloglasses]

I'm far from delicate, the opposite in fact, the brutality of the film did not phase me. IT MADE IT ALL THE BETTER! I'm a horrible person, I know, I made a topic about it, lmao.

But it is quite the movie. They even bothered to throw in a marriage scene of all things. Altough the representation of an Irish guy who's either a Saint who can talk to God, or crasy, probably both, and another Irish guy who turns out to be a murderous traitor is somewhat perplexing to me.

Mel Gibson makes a brilliant William Wallace.

[CrossCuT]

[size=1]Call me sad, but Ive never acctually seen the whole movie yet...
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[Socrates]

AWESOMEST. MOVIE. EVAR.

"Every man dies. Not every man really lives."

"FrrreeeeEEEEEEDDDDDOOOOOooooommmmmm!"

[kujo]

[quote name='Socrates' post='1521769' date='May 7 2008, 09:49 PM']AWESOMEST. MOVIE. EVAR.

"Every man dies. Not every man really lives."

"FrrreeeeEEEEEEDDDDDOOOOOooooommmmmm!"[/quote]

"Fight and you may die. Run, and you'll live...at least awhile. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day till that, for one chance--JUST ONE CHANCE!!!-- to come back here and tell our enemies: that they may take our lives, but they'll never take OUR FREEDOM!!!"

[Galloglasses]

Its hard not to feel invigorated with the battle speech.

[sarcasmguy126]

The battle scenes and speeches are rousing and spectacular, and Gibson plays his part amazingly well. I am glad someone started this poll. He put an end to the theft, rape, and murder that spread through Scotland. Better yet, him and his fellow Scots were CATHOLICS!!! That was cool. "They may take our lives, but they'll never take...OUR FREEDOM!!! Agra du bra!!!" The bagpipe music was a GREAT background score to the epic film. TH battle scenes were long and bloody but never very gratuitous.

Despite all that, I agree with the other people here that, best movie ever or not, I wish they cut out the post-marriage sex scene with his wife (that is onscreen adultery), the f-words that the insane Irishman used when "talking to God to find his equal", the (real-life) homosexual prince and his male friend, the adulterous affair the writers included AFTER his wife died (loyal to death indeed), and the (clothed) assualt of his wife was a little unnecessary. It could have been better if Gibson (good Catholic man he tried to be) had omitted some of these things.

OVERALL RATING: 9.5/10

As a movie, one of the best, longest, and inspiring movies ever made, but there was enough moral depravity to keep me from giving it a 10/10.

[kujo]

[quote name='sarcasmguy126' post='1525609' date='May 12 2008, 10:14 AM']Despite all that, I agree with the other people here that, best movie ever or not, I wish they cut out the post-marriage sex scene with his wife (that is onscreen adultery), the f-words that the insane Irishman used when "talking to God to find his equal", the (real-life) homosexual prince and his male friend, the adulterous affair the writers included AFTER his wife died (loyal to death indeed), and the (clothed) assualt of his wife was a little unnecessary. It could have been better if Gibson (good Catholic man he tried to be) had omitted some of these things.

OVERALL RATING: 9.5/10

As a movie, one of the best, longest, and inspiring movies ever made, but there was enough moral depravity to keep me from giving it a 10/10.[/quote]

I think some of the stuff you included in your critique is a little off. I mean, for starters, the 2 instances of the f-word is quite surprising given the fact that this movie is supposed to be fairly historical and, thus, would need to be accurate. These were common-folk, soldiers who probably used some scatological language. The fact that the profanity was virtually non-existent in this movie was actually pretty surprising.

As for the assault of his wife...if it happened, it's fair game.

That said, I would agree that the nudity and affair probably could've been nixed, though the latter seemed to move the plot along at the end. Overall, I wouldn't let those things affect you.

[sarcasmguy126]

[quote name='kujo' post='1533350' date='May 19 2008, 09:53 AM']I think some of the stuff you included in your critique is a little off. I mean, for starters, the 2 instances of the f-word is quite surprising given the fact that this movie is supposed to be fairly historical and, thus, would need to be accurate. These were common-folk, soldiers who probably used some scatological language. The fact that the profanity was virtually non-existent in this movie was actually pretty surprising.

As for the assault of his wife...if it happened, it's fair game.

That said, I would agree that the nudity and affair probably could've been nixed, though the latter seemed to move the plot along at the end. Overall, I wouldn't let those things affect you.[/quote]

Well, it bothers me a bit, Gibson portraying the good Catholic man in the movie. The f-words were for entirely comedic purposes. The affair was used to tick the king off. Like you said, it was a stain on an otherwise fairly pure movie.

[sarcasmguy126]

[quote name='kujo' post='1533350' date='May 19 2008, 09:53 AM']I think some of the stuff you included in your critique is a little off. I mean, for starters, the 2 instances of the f-word is quite surprising given the fact that this movie is supposed to be fairly historical and, thus, would need to be accurate. These were common-folk, soldiers who probably used some scatological language. The fact that the profanity was virtually non-existent in this movie was actually pretty surprising.

As for the assault of his wife...if it happened, it's fair game.

That said, I would agree that the nudity and affair probably could've been nixed, though the latter seemed to move the plot along at the end. Overall, I wouldn't let those things affect you.[/quote]

Well, it bothers me a bit, Gibson portraying the good Catholic man in the movie. The f-words were for entirely comedic purposes. The affair was used to tick the king off. Like you said, it was a stain on an otherwise fairly pure movie.