Children Now Able To Get "gender Change"

[TotusTuusMaria]

Boston, May. 5, 2008 (CWNews.com) - A Massachusetts hospital for children is providing hormone treatment for young people who wish to change their gender identity, reveals an article in the Anchor, the newspaper of the Fall River, Massachusetts, diocese.

The "Gender Management Service Clinic" at Children's Hospital in Boston offers treatment for young people who have "no known anatomic or biochemical disorder who feel like a member of the opposite sex." The clinic treats children as young as 10 years old, reports Gail Besse for the Anchor.

The program at Children's Hospital, which advertises itself as "unique in the Western hemisphere," provides hormone treatment as the first step in gender-reassignment. Young people may then undergo surgery elsewhere to alter their genital organs.

"This is cooperating with psychosis," Father Anthony Mastroeni, a New Jersey priest who has studied sex-change surgery, told the Anchor.

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[Justin86]

Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

[SJRod55]

Terrible news.

[Archaeology cat]

[Galloglasses]

I know its morally wrong, but I always feel that the liberal nut-jobs who come up with this croutons really need to be dragged out onto the street and shot. I'm an angry person.

[goldbug16]

That's disgusting and terribly sad.

[Deb]

Too bizarre. Are you sure that wasn't in the Onion?

(At first I thought the thread said, Chicken, not children.)

[Socrates]

Liberal "progress" marches on . . .

[Deb]

I think you have to come up with a new word because there isn't a single "liberal" person that I know that would find that acceptable. Can't you in invent something left of Liberal. I mean we came up with Neo-Con to show right of conservative and they are as bad in their respects as whomever goes along with this croutons.

[CatherineM]

Left of liberal in Canada is called NDP.

[picchick]

Yeah this is not right...at all....medicall or morally.


To medically be able to get a gender change you must live a certain time in the life of the other gender. They you start with the therapy.

How does a 10 year old know that it is what they want? They are not developmentally ready for this decision. At that time they are going through Erik Erickson's stage of industry vs. inferiority. They are working through school and finding out what they are good at vs. what they are not good at. Then after that they have to go through role confusion vs. identity. Even during this stage, they are finding out who they are and trying to fit in. It is not the right time or place to be deciding that they want to be a boy if they are a girl or visa versa. They are not ready to make that decision.

Why is the medical field not getting back to the basic of childhood development???? Was it not beaten into them during school?

[MissScripture]

[quote name='picchick' post='1521506' date='May 7 2008, 04:32 PM']Yeah this is not right...at all....medicall or morally.
To medically be able to get a gender change you must live a certain time in the life of the other gender. They you start with the therapy.

How does a 10 year old know that it is what they want? They are not developmentally ready for this decision. At that time they are going through Erik Erickson's stage of industry vs. inferiority. They are working through school and finding out what they are good at vs. what they are not good at. Then after that they have to go through role confusion vs. identity. Even during this stage, they are finding out who they are and trying to fit in. It is not the right time or place to be deciding that they want to be a boy if they are a girl or visa versa. They are not ready to make that decision.

Why is the medical field not getting back to the basic of childhood development???? Was it not beaten into them during school?[/quote]
Well, consider this: My brother has a friend who is a nurse who was dealing with a student nurse. The student nurse said her patient had a temp of 76 degrees. And the nurse said, "Don't you mean 97.6?" "No, it says 76 degrees!" "Okay, can you show me...?" The student takes the nurse to the room and points to the thermostat on the wall and says, "See? Right there it says his temp is 76 degrees!"

Basically, what I'm saying, is that sadly, people can make it through a lot of schooling and still be really dumb. I don't know if this is due to poor schooling or what, but hearing some of the stories I have from my mom and brother (who both work at the hospital, mom is a nurse, brother wants to be), there are some really dumb people going into the medical field, which smells of elderberries for the good ones who need to work that much harder...

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='picchick' post='1521506' date='May 7 2008, 09:32 PM']How does a 10 year old know that it is what they want? They are not developmentally ready for this decision.[/quote]
Exactly. I babysat this girl when she was 8-10, and she always said she wanted to be a boy (she was a tomboy). However, now that she is 18 and in college, she definitely enjoys being a girl. But at that point she felt that being a boy was cooler because they didnt play with dolls and got to play in the dirt. Once she figured out that girls could just as easily play in the dirt, she was over it. So, to sum up, kids that age have yet to figure out who they are, and cannot make such a decision as a gender change at that point.

[picchick]

[quote name='MissScripture' post='1521528' date='May 7 2008, 04:57 PM']Well, consider this: My brother has a friend who is a nurse who was dealing with a student nurse. The student nurse said her patient had a temp of 76 degrees. And the nurse said, "Don't you mean 97.6?" "No, it says 76 degrees!" "Okay, can you show me...?" The student takes the nurse to the room and points to the thermostat on the wall and says, "See? Right there it says his temp is 76 degrees!"

Basically, what I'm saying, is that sadly, people can make it through a lot of schooling and still be really dumb. I don't know if this is due to poor schooling or what, but hearing some of the stories I have from my mom and brother (who both work at the hospital, mom is a nurse, brother wants to be), there are some really dumb people going into the medical field, which smells of elderberries for the good ones who need to work that much harder...[/quote]

Oh yeah I could tell you the stories that I have.....from nursing students who didn't make it et. al. But anyways. I am just saying that out of a whole hospital...there has got to be SOMEONE who knows SOMETHING about basic childhood development who can raise their hand and say, "HELLOOOO?!?!"

[Socrates]

[quote name='Deb' post='1521320' date='May 7 2008, 11:36 AM']I think you have to come up with a new word because there isn't a single "liberal" person that I know that would find that acceptable. Can't you in invent something left of Liberal. I mean we came up with Neo-Con to show right of conservative and they are as bad in their respects as whomever goes along with this croutons.[/quote]
1) I guess I'm not real creative at that sort of thing. For left-of-liberal, there is the word "Communist," though that's not quite what I'm getting at, and I'm sure even hardened KGB chiefs would be shocked at parents taking their kiddies into the clinic to get their genitals mutilated.
But let's face it; it's social liberals, not conservatives, that tend to be in favor of this sort of thing.
I was actually thinking along the lines of the word "progressive," as people in favor of such sick causes tend to favor that word over "liberal," but the phrase "progressive progress" would sound redundant and silly.

2) For the hundredth time, "Neo-conservative" ("Neo-Con") does [b]NOT[/b] mean "to the right of conservative" or "ultra-conservative."
"Neo-conservative" literally means "new conservative," and refers to largely Jewish former liberals who tend to support a powerful central government, "interventionalist" foreign policy, and the State of Israel. William Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, and the staff of The Weekly Standard, are typical of neo-cons.


From Merriam-Webster[quote]Main Entry:
neo·con·ser·va·tive
Pronunciation:
\ˌnē-ō-kən-ˈsər-və-tiv\
Function:
noun
Date:
1952

1 : a former liberal espousing political conservatism 2 : a conservative who advocates the assertive promotion of democracy and United States national interest in international affairs including through military means[/quote]

They are opposed by old-school conservatives, or "paleo-cons" (also known as "traditionalist conservatives") who are opposed to large centralized government, favor "isolationist" foreign policy, and are for smaller, more decentralized government, strict constitutionalism, and traditional religious/social values. Pat Buchanan, Joe Sobran, and the late Samuel Francis are examples of paleo-cons.

"Paleo-cons" generally do not consider neo-cons to be real conservatives, but a type of liberal.

This should be pinned. If people are going to bash conservatives, they should at least get their terminology correct.