My Problem With Walt Disney

[KnightofChrist]

Ha! I have one of Spock.

[Kitty]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1520197' date='May 6 2008, 12:26 AM']The Rescuers did show a quick pornographic image of a naked woman. After that its kind of difficult to trust completely its just stoners... but yeah...[/quote]

This one is actually true. It was a joke by the cartoonists and no one noticed it until after the movie had been released. It passes by in the scene so fast that you have to pause it at exactly the right time to see it.

[KnightofChrist]

Excuses excuses bottom line disney has indeed placed porno in children's movies.

Edited May 6, 2008 by KnightofChrist

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='BG45' post='1519740' date='May 5 2008, 11:20 PM']I have a friend that's in Youth Ministry that found out the gay support the hard way. He was so proud when he could finally afford to take his kids to Disney...and on his first day there it was a Gay Pride Day or something? He said that they wouldn't give him his money back, that if he didn't want his kids to see gay couples making out then he should've come another time.[/quote]
As others have said, they don't actually sponsor the Gay Days. I know one friend who went on a Gay Day, unintentionally, and accidentally wore the same colour shirt that was being worn for people attending Gay Day to identify each other, and Disney gave him a different colour shirt. They may have offered to let him come back a different day, but I can't remember.

[quote name='Lil Red' post='1519743' date='May 5 2008, 11:25 PM']+J.M.J.+
i'm a sucker for disney cartoon movies (especially the oldies)[/quote]
Robin Hood & the Aristocats are my favourites.

[quote name='picchick' post='1520186' date='May 6 2008, 05:00 AM']let me add too that it does sadden me that Disney has made the move to support planned parenthood. Like I said before. I always like to dream I was a "Disney Princess" like Belle and Cinderella and so forth. I don't want you all to think my heart is like stone or whatev.[/quote]
I certainly don't think that, and I think it's great that you're doing this. I didn't know about a connection between Disney & PP until now. Though I will say that some companies that make it on that list are put on because employees are allowed to earmark charitable contributions to the organisation of their choice, and not because the company is actively supporting PP. (eBay is an example, as they don't send money from eBay to PP, but employees are allowed to contribute to the organisation of their choice and some have chosen PP). I mean, it would be great if even that didn't happen, but I don't see them as [i]quite [/i]as culpable in a situation like that (not that they're completely innocent).

[Jesus_lol]

why would you blame disney for that scene in the Rescuers? obviously it is someones idea of a joke, and i cant imagine that the people who run disney have much of a sense of humour when their business can be hurt.the idiocy to believe that these movies are made for the purpose of showing a millisecond of slightly racy footage is astounding.
your local coffee shop employs someone who is secretly a low key racist, does that make the coffee shop and its coffee evil?
no it doesnt. same here, one of the million animators played a sick prank, and was probably fired when it was discovered.

really, all the "subliminal messages", which wouldnt work anyways, arent that bad to begin with. i dont know why you are getting worked up over something like a hard to read "sex"(by reading that you have been ordered to become a lusty tramp! obey! )
pragmatically, is there any other way for a young child to be entertained for 2 hours without some bad language? certainly not in the playground.

considering the amount of typos and bloopers in this example [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIaHyG_gX7M&NR=1"]the little mermaid[/url] its not surprising that these other things went unnoticed

Edited May 6, 2008 by Jesus_lol

[carrdero]

[quote name='fides quarens intellectum' post='1519635' date='May 5 2008, 04:52 PM']Plus, i think they are a Planned Parenthood supporter (and consequently on some Christian Pro-Life boycott lists).

Also, where are the positive father figures in Disney films?[/quote]
Did you ever notice how the mothers always die or are completely absent in Disney Films (Bambi, Finding Nemo).

Edited May 6, 2008 by carrdero

[Kitty]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1520220' date='May 6 2008, 02:21 AM']Excuses excuses bottom line disney has indeed placed porno in children's movies.[/quote]

So? It wasn't Disney's intention that this actually happen. It was an easter egg put in there by the artists and the directors didn't see it. It's not like the kids actually saw it. And do you know how often this has happened? Out of the hundreds of movies that they have made? It's not like there's a sexual image in every four movies or something.

A writer at Disney was fired on his first day because he jokingly suggested making a Disney porno with all of the Disney characters. That shows you their stance on the subject. They're not even going to let you joke about stuff like that. [url="http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/ellison.asp"]Here's[/url] a link to the full story.

Speaking of all these sexual subliminal messages, where are all of these people's minds when they watch these movies? Seeing "SEX" in the sky, mistaking a knee for an erection...maybe they should get their heads out of the gutter for a while.

Edited May 6, 2008 by Kitty

[kujo]

[quote name='Archaeology cat' post='1520223' date='May 6 2008, 03:39 AM']I certainly don't think that, and I think it's great that you're doing this. I didn't know about a connection between Disney & PP until now. Though I will say that some companies that make it on that list are put on because employees are allowed to earmark charitable contributions to the organisation of their choice, and not because the company is actively supporting PP. (eBay is an example, as they don't send money from eBay to PP, but employees are allowed to contribute to the organisation of their choice and some have chosen PP). I mean, it would be great if even that didn't happen, but I don't see them as [i]quite [/i]as culpable in a situation like that (not that they're completely innocent).[/quote]

That's cool. I didn't know that that was how these donations were done. I don't think we should boycott a company just because their employees donate to eBay. That seems a little much, IMHO.

[quote name='Jesus_lol' post='1520229' date='May 6 2008, 04:01 AM']why would you blame disney for that scene in the Rescuers? obviously it is someones idea of a joke, and i cant imagine that the people who run disney have much of a sense of humour when their business can be hurt.the idiocy to believe that these movies are made for the purpose of showing a millisecond of slightly racy footage is astounding.
your local coffee shop employs someone who is secretly a low key racist, does that make the coffee shop and its coffee evil?
no it doesnt. same here, one of the million animators played a sick prank, and was probably fired when it was discovered.

really, all the "subliminal messages", which wouldnt work anyways, arent that bad to begin with. i dont know why you are getting worked up over something like a hard to read "sex"(by reading that you have been ordered to become a lusty tramp! obey! )
pragmatically, is there any other way for a young child to be entertained for 2 hours without some bad language? certainly not in the playground.

considering the amount of typos and bloopers in this example [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIaHyG_gX7M&NR=1"]the little mermaid[/url] its not surprising that these other things went unnoticed[/quote]

My feelings exactly. We all grew up on Disney, and none of us are sexual deviants or rabid atheists. So, if Disney's mission was create a world of godless-nymphomaniacs, they have failed.

[quote name='carrdero' post='1520235' date='May 6 2008, 05:24 AM']Did you ever notice how the mothers always die or are completely absent in Disney Films (Bambi, Finding Nemo).[/quote]

Someone brought up the fact that fathers are always portrayed in a negative light, if they're portrayed at all. The dad in [u]Finding Nemo[/u] is definitely the exception. He is devoted to his kid, literally swimming all over the world looking for him. He loves him and wants to protect him, but, by the end, realizes that he has to let Nemo grow up. Now, what parent doesn't have to learn this same lesson?

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='kujo' post='1520349' date='May 6 2008, 04:24 PM']That's cool. I didn't know that that was how these donations were done. I don't think we should boycott a company just because their employees donate to eBay. That seems a little much, IMHO.[/quote]
Unless it's changed, that's how it works with eBay. I looked up them & Paypal b/c I use them a lot.

[iheartjp2]

[quote name='fides quarens intellectum' post='1519635' date='May 5 2008, 03:52 PM']Plus, i think they are a Planned Parenthood supporter (and consequently on some Christian Pro-Life boycott lists).

Also, where are the positive father figures in Disney films?[/quote]

After 50 posts, I feel like this is a little late, yet I just found this thread and felt the need to respond.

I honestly feel that King Trident in "The Little Mermaid" is a good father. He loves his daughter, when he finds something that shows her disobedience (no matter how good or harmless a thing she believes it is), he punishes her, and when he's been too severe, he relents and apologizes, and at the end, he finally sees what good her life comes to because she decided to go after something she wanted. I mean, it's only one example, I just thought it should be considered.

[praying4carmel]

Nobody has mentioned as far as I can read the biggest problem with Disney Movies is that there is always Violence of some sort in them.
Even Old Yeller was Violent, and Bambi was just Horrible.

Edited May 6, 2008 by praying4carmel

[Lil Red]

[quote name='carrdero' post='1520235' date='May 6 2008, 02:24 AM']Did you ever notice how the mothers always die or are completely absent in Disney Films (Bambi, Finding Nemo).[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
yeah, noticed that too.

[StColette]

[quote name='carrdero' post='1520235' date='May 6 2008, 04:24 AM']Did you ever notice how the mothers always die or are completely absent in Disney Films (Bambi, Finding Nemo).[/quote]

The example of Find Nemo though shows a sacrifice of a mother for her children. Nemo's mother died protecting the eggs.

Sorry just wanted to point that out.

[StColette]

[quote name='praying4carmel' post='1520369' date='May 6 2008, 12:16 PM']Nobody has mentioned as far as I can read the biggest problem with Disney Movies is that there is always Violence of some sort in them.
Even Old Yeller was Violent, and Bambi was just Horrible.[/quote]

show me any cartoon without violence. Even the carebears and my little pony had violence lol

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='StColette' post='1520415' date='May 6 2008, 06:30 PM']show me any cartoon without violence. Even the carebears and my little pony had violence lol[/quote]
Exactly. And I certainly wasn't scarred by watching Bambi (does it even actually show Bambi's mother's death? I don't remember that being shown, but it's been awhile), or Looney Toons, or any other cartoons that I watched. While senseless violence should be avoided, I don't think kids should be sheltered from everything.