MissScripture Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1512966' date='Apr 28 2008, 06:44 PM']ok i concede i was implying things into what you said. i can give lots of reasons why now is not the time, and i really doubt anyone could give any significant reasons why now is better than then. but since you were only making that observation, i will let someone else make the claim as to how it'd be better to wait. (but taking a neutral sort of stance as you did, is still taking the stance to a degree that it's not clear that we should wait, which i think it is) plus... you said what i said was nonsense. how can you try saying that you're simply making an observation, and not taking a stance... when you say what i said was nonesense? talk about nonesense. how can you say i've been illogical given that i supported my conclusions with reasoning? how is that nonesense? you didn't say how it's nonesense, so what you said even if allegedly not taking a stance,,, is still nonesense.[/quote] I said that your logic was nonsense, not necessarily your conclusions, there is a difference. You can be illogical and still come to reasonable conclusions. Just because you have "reasoning" does not make conclusions logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 [quote name='notardillacid' post='1513066' date='Apr 28 2008, 07:37 PM']Because when you need more money it's easier to print more than to be responsible. [/quote] That's kind of what I thought I remembered, because I remember thinking how logical the gold standard seemed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 [quote name='Deus_te_Amat' post='1512859' date='Apr 28 2008, 04:51 PM']Yet another reason why we should be drilling in ANWAR. Contrary to what most liberals would tell you, there are actually MORE Caribou thriving near the pipelines. Drilling for oil in the reserve is NOT harmful to the environment. I drive a half hour to and from school every day. Most people are like that around here. I don't see how the American people, especially in the more rural areas like Wyoming and South Dakota, could stand to be scammed out of money when we have such an oil reserve of our own at our fingertips.[/quote] definitely agree (not sure on the effect on natural habitation though). I think it would serve well to combine this topic with the one in debate table since the two thread subjects are so connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 [quote name='notardillacid' post='1512862' date='Apr 28 2008, 04:51 PM']The price of oil has remained constant with respect to the dollar. So if the dollar was tied to a gold standard, you would be seeing little change. Runaway inflation is a huge problem right now.[/quote] also very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I'm glad I don't own a car anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamweaver Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Don't forget about the recently resurveyed Bakken Formation in North Dakota, Montana, and Saskatchewan; estimated to have 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of recoverable oil. Though economic analysts predict it wouldn't really affect oil prices; it would have a great impact on local economies (taxes!). When push comes to shove, America has quite a bit of oil; it just isn't bursting out of the ground like it is in the Middle East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Im guessing we will find alternate means of fuel before we see $10 a gal. That or we *gasp* start using our own from alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 [quote name='dust (the ultra-handsome' post='1512762' date='Apr 28 2008, 04:27 PM']Looks like I'm getting one of these: [url="http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4251491.html"]http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive...rs/4251491.html[/url] The air that comes out of it's exhaust pipe is breathable.[/quote] I want one. It's a shame they're only going to start with 10,000/year...that means SUV-driving celebrity hypocrites will buy them first and never use them...then by about 2050, after a civil war over gas prices erupts, we'll finally all be able to afford bread again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 [quote name='Dreamweaver' post='1513288' date='Apr 28 2008, 09:29 PM']Don't forget about the recently resurveyed Bakken Formation in North Dakota, Montana, and Saskatchewan; estimated to have 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of recoverable oil. Though economic analysts predict it wouldn't really affect oil prices; it would have a great impact on local economies (taxes!). When push comes to shove, America has quite a bit of oil; it just isn't bursting out of the ground like it is in the Middle East.[/quote] Yeah...that and with the exception of a few rebels in Iran, there are no liberals in the Middle East to block access to oil reserves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theologian in Training Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Guess I am going to have to get better at riding my Christmas gift [img]http://www.jugglingstore.com/store/images/js310_xl.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 [quote name='Dreamweaver' post='1513288' date='Apr 28 2008, 09:29 PM']Don't forget about the recently resurveyed Bakken Formation in North Dakota, Montana, and Saskatchewan; estimated to have 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of recoverable oil. Though economic analysts predict it wouldn't really affect oil prices; it would have a great impact on local economies (taxes!). When push comes to shove, America has quite a bit of oil; it just isn't bursting out of the ground like it is in the Middle East.[/quote] I don't think most people remember/realize there is any oil out here. My uncle lives up next to the oil fields, so I always knew about it, but when I'd joke that I was coming to school to strike oil, people would laugh, and I'd say, "No, seriously, there's oil out there..." And then they'd give me funny looks like, and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscerningSoul Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I am going to start riding my bike to work more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscerningSoul Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 By the way anyone come across this? [url="http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm"]http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm[/url] What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleFan Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 They don't explain how it works on the web site. They want you to sign up for the "free" e-mail course. It's clearly a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkwright Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 [quote name='notardillacid' post='1512862' date='Apr 28 2008, 04:51 PM']The price of oil has remained constant with respect to the dollar. So if the dollar was tied to a gold standard, you would be seeing little change. Runaway inflation is a huge problem right now.[/quote] I don't think this is correct. Oil, since last summer, has doubled in price $50-$120ish. The dollar since last summer has lost some value, but it has not lost half its value thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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