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Laudate_Dominum

we need to give that St. Patrick thread some comp.

fun facts (not sure how true they all are):

1. The first man of Columbus' crew to step on American soil was an Irishman named Patrick McGuire.

2. According to Cromwell's propaganda the Irish have tails!

3. The first actual law of religious tolerance in European history was by the revolutionary Irish Parliament.

4. The earliest record we have of a true condemnation of the practice of slavery was from St. Patrick.

5. According to the ancient historians Eusebius and Nicephorus, some of the Apostles visited Ireland -- among them James, Simon the Zealot and St. Paul!

6. America was called "Great Ireland" by ancient geographers long before Columbus.

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Laudate_Dominum

[quote name='Colleen' date='Mar 10 2004, 09:18 PM'] Ever heard of Our Lady of Knock? It was an Apparition of Mary in the late 1800's in Ireland.

[url="http://www.knock-shrine.ie/"]from the shrine's website:[/url]

The Story of Knock began on the 21st August 1879 when Our Lady, St. Joseph and St. John the Evangelist appeared at the south gable of Knock Parish Church. The apparition was witnessed by fifteen people, young and old. From this miraculous occurrence Knock has grown to the status of an internationally recognised Marian Shrine.

The personal pilgrimage of Pope John Paul II in 1979, commemorating the centenary of the apparition, inspired an even greater devotion to the Shrine and endorsed the indelible seal of Vatican approval. Mother Teresa of Calcutta visited the Shrine in June of 1993. One and a half million pilgrims visit the Shrine annually. [/quote]
Thanks Colleen! Our Lady of Knock is awesome. Many people have never heard of it so I'm glad you posted that. :cool:

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Laudate_Dominum

I was just listening to this jam and felt like posting it since no one has posted a song recently. :)

[b]Vanished Like The Snow[/b]
Tell me, where did Helen go?
This is where she had her dwelling
She has vanished like the snow
Where there is no way of telling
This is where she had her dwelling
And the while they come and they go
Where there is no way of telling
She has vanished like the snow

What became of Heloise?
Abelard, he was her lover
Once they lived in Saint-Denis
Where they've gone, I can't discover
Abelard, he was her lover
All the while they come and they go
Where they've gone I can't discover
They have vanished like the snow

Joan came riding from the rain
Everybody knows the story
England burned her in the rain
Theirs the shame and hers the glory
Everybody knows the story
All the while they come and they go
England's shame and France's glory
When she vanished like the snow

Where's the times and where's the places?
That is what I'd like to know
For they gloried in their graces
When they vanished like the snow

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Laudate_Dominum

This is a little poem by some guy.

[b]BAR SESSION [/b]

and now he is fiddling so fiercely
the bow barely moves becomes
a skid on the strings
raised lowered to the flicker of fingers
of feeling as

the strict reel the improvised
slides grace notes delays double stops all
revv. into wilder life one
imaged even in a grin he throws to
his box player pumping away in tandem
and smiling back in that Gaelic code
of ease under pressure
his thumb in place like a tradition
his digits tapping buttons like mad

this touch and release
the straight arms in our dance with space
that line certain as a letter in
The Book of Kells itself
can still allow like it for the whimsical
though a bowrán player would know
he should go almost unnoticed of it’s all
so Irish no other musician can get it it
strikes neither chords nor attitudes

half a glance and they
bridge sweetly as one into
Over the Moor to Maggie

put down your drink and listen
next time it will be different

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Laudate_Dominum

Guess what tomorrow is? :)

I hope this thread gets some serious play tomorrow!

God bless.

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I found a good site for Irish songs and ballads. Some have MIDI files with them too.

[url="http://ingeb.org/catei.html"]here[/url]

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cmotherofpirl

Who has the claim to fame of bringing St Patrick to Ireland?
St Brighid, Niall of the 9 hostages, Bord Failte, or the Vikings

Who was Irelands 1st canonized Saint?
St Lawrence O'Toole, St Oliver Plunkett, St Matthew Talbot, St Patrick

Who diiscovered America in 545 AD?
St Brendan - bishop of Clonefert, St Kevin, Irish sailors on the spanish armada, an irish monk who sailed with Leif Eriksson

What is the leprechauns legendary profession?
tour guide, tailor and cobbler, banker, garden ornament


Whose cry heralds the death of a member of the listener's family?
banshee, keener, pooka, wolf

What is a changling?
currency, loose coins, ugly impish child left by fairies, evil spirit who steals cattle


What is a pooka?
fairy who takes the form of a horse, an irish dance, clothing, irish ballad

what weapon can you use against fairies?
none, money, fire and iron, words

What is the origin of fairies?
angels who revolted and thrown out of heaven, the ancient gods driven underground by Christianity, imagination, marketing tool


Who did not invade Ireland?
vikings, romans, normans, english


Where is the seat of the High Kings of Ireland?
Tara, Dublin castle, Armagh, Galway


What does one do at a wake?
sing a song, cry, drink alcogol, play games


If on a journey you meet a red-haired woman what do you do?
turn back, talk, ignor, cross the road

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Let me see... I don't think I know them all.

[quote]Who has the claim to fame of bringing St Patrick to Ireland?
St Brighid, Niall of the 9 hostages, Bord Failte, or the Vikings[/quote]
Umm, no clue. It's not St. Brigid though! :lol: I'm going to go with Niall of the 9 Hostages

[quote]Who was Irelands 1st canonized Saint?
St Lawrence O'Toole, St Oliver Plunkett, St Matthew Talbot, St Patrick[/quote]
I'm going to say St. Patrick

Btw, Has Matt Talbot been canonized yet?

[quote]Who diiscovered America in 545 AD?
St Brendan - bishop of Clonefert, St Kevin, Irish sailors on the spanish armada, an irish monk who sailed with Leif Eriksson[/quote]
St. Brendan

[quote]What is the leprechauns legendary profession?
tour guide, tailor and cobbler, banker, garden ornament[/quote]
Tailor and cobbler

[quote]Whose cry heralds the death of a member of the listener's family?
banshee, keener, pooka, wolf[/quote]
Banshee

[quote]What is a changling?
currency, loose coins, ugly impish child left by fairies, evil spirit who steals cattle[/quote]
Ugly impish child left by fairies. Thus, many mothers dressed their baby boys in dresses to confuse the fairies, who didn't steal away little girls.

[quote]What is a pooka?
fairy who takes the form of a horse, an irish dance, clothing, irish ballad[/quote]
?? Fairy who takes form of a horse??

[quote]what weapon can you use against fairies?
none, money, fire and iron, words[/quote]
none? either that or words. The Irish are so chatty, you know. ;)

[quote]What is the origin of fairies?
angels who revolted and thrown out of heaven, the ancient gods driven underground by Christianity, imagination, marketing tool[/quote]

imagination?

[quote]Who did not invade Ireland?
vikings, romans, normans, english[/quote]
The Romans!

[quote]Where is the seat of the High Kings of Ireland?
Tara, Dublin castle, Armagh, Galway[/quote]
Tara

[quote]What does one do at a wake?
sing a song, cry, drink alcogol, play games[/quote]
All of the above?

[quote]If on a journey you meet a red-haired woman what do you do?
turn back, talk, ignor, cross the road[/quote]
I don't know! I have red hair though. :unsure:

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EcceNovaFacioOmni

[quote]The first actual law of religious tolerance in European history was by the revolutionary Irish Parliament.[/quote]
What about the Edict of Milan?

Happy St. Patrick's Day!

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Okay, let's start up the Irish bar songs! :D

[b]Phil The Fluter's Ball
(Percy French/David Heneker)[/b]

Have you heard of Phil the fluter
From the town of Ballymuck
The times was going hard for him
In fact the man was broke
So he sent an invitation
To his neighbours one and all
As how he'd like their company
That evening at a ball

And when writing out
He was careful to suggest to them
That if they found a hat of his
Convenient to the door
The more they put in
Whenever he requested them
The better would the music be
For battering the floor

With a toot on the flute
And a twiddle on the fiddle-oh
Hopping in the middle
Like a herrin' on the griddle-oh
Up, down, hands around
And crossing to the wall
Sure hadn't we the gaiety
At Phil the Fluter's ball

There was Mister Denis Doherty
Who kept a running dog
There was little crooked Paddy
From the Tiraloughett bog
There was boys from every barony
And girls from every art
And the beautiful Miss Bradys'
In their private ass and cart

Along with them
Came bouncing Mrs Cafferty
Little Mickey Mulligan
Was also to the fore
Rose, Suzanne and Margaret O'Rafferty
The flower of Ard Na Gullion
And the pride of Petravore

With a toot on the flute
And a twiddle on the fiddle-oh
Hopping in the middle
Like a herrin' on the griddle-oh
Up, down, hands around
And crossing to the wall
Sure hadn't we the gaiety
At Phil the Fluter's ball

First little Mickey Mulligan
Got up to show them how
And then the widow Cafferty
Steps out and takes her bow
I'll dance you off your legs, says she
As sure as you were born
If you'll only make the piper play
"The Hare was in the Corn"

So Phil plays up
To the best of his ability
The ladies and the gentlemen
Begin to do their share
Faith, then Mick
It's you that has agility
Begob an' Mrs Cafferty
You're leppin' like a hare

With a toot on the flute
And a twiddle on the fiddle-oh
Hopping in the middle
Like a herrin' on the griddle-oh
Up, down, hands around
And crossing to the wall
Sure hadn't we the gaiety
At Phil the Fluter's ball

Then Phil the fluter tipped a wink
To little crooked Pat
I think it's nearly time, says he
For passing round the hat
So Paddy passed the caipín round
And looking very cute
Said, you have to pay the piper
When he tootles on the flute

Then all joined in
With the greatest joviality
Coverin' the buckle
And the shuffle and the cut
Jigs were danced
Of the very finest quality
But the widow bate the company
At handlin' the foot

With a toot on the flute
And a twiddle on the fiddle-oh
Hopping in the middle
Like a herrin' on the griddle-oh
Up, down, hands around
And crossing to the wall
Sure hadn't we the gaiety
At Phil the Fluter's ball

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[url="http://website.lineone.net/~cewhitehead2/star.htm"]The Star of the County Down[/url]

This site has the words and music to this song. Just to get in the spirit for tomorrow! :cheer: :beer: :banana: :cheers: :guitar:

All for ------------> :incense: St Patrick's Day!

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