catholicinsd Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Didacus' post='1499182' date='Apr 14 2008, 01:52 PM']I understand the difficulties he faced, however this does not excuse putting his faith aside.[/quote] Had he not, he would have been inelectable. And he was a very faithful Catholic, none of his policies were againist Church teaching. Just because he wasn't loud about his faith doesn't make him un-catholic. Edited April 14, 2008 by catholicinsd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1499269' date='Apr 14 2008, 01:52 PM']Had he not, he would have been inelectable. And he was a very faithful Catholic, none of his policies were againist Church teaching. Just because he wasn't loud about his faith doesn't make him un-catholic.[/quote] Gotta love democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 [quote name='Deb' post='1499157' date='Apr 14 2008, 01:03 PM']In the late 50's and early 60's, Catholics in this country were feared and hated and had their own discrimination to deal with. They also gained power from the Kennedy Presidency. There has not been a Catholic in that office since him. I have an issue of Life magazine from when Kennedy was running for office and the headline is about whether the country can allow a Catholic to be President. The article is completely about the country being run from Rome and not the oval office. Could a Catholic be trusted to do what is in the interest of the country or only in the interests of the Vatican. Times have changed, somewhat.[/quote] Ironically, at the same time, Archbishop Fulton Sheen was on TV and non-Catholics loved him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 [quote name='Didacus' post='1499337' date='Apr 14 2008, 04:19 PM']Gotta love democracy. [/quote] You tell me one thing that John F. Kennedy, may he rest in peace, did that was outside of Holy Mother Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) An affair with Marilyn Monroe comes to mind... Edited April 14, 2008 by Deus_te_Amat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birgitta Noel Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 [quote name='Deus_te_Amat' post='1499462' date='Apr 14 2008, 06:34 PM']An affair with Marilyn Monroe comes to mind...[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 [quote name='Deus_te_Amat' post='1499462' date='Apr 14 2008, 07:34 PM']An affair with Marilyn Monroe comes to mind...[/quote] Indeed. It was funny in a class today, we were doing presentations, and one group was doing first ladies. "My husband had an affair with a movie star" was the prompt, and everyone yelled, "JACKIE KENNEDY!!!" As for the OP...I'm of the school that Bush is not really a Born Again Christian with his evasion of "It was a process". Talk to anyone you know online or offline who is a "Born Again Christian", self included, and they will tell you all about the day, the time, [b]every minute detail[/b]. So it would not surprise me, if I am right about him, that when the Fullness of Truth smacked him upside the head from those he surrounds himself with, he would be attracted to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommas_boy Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Oh great. That's all I want ... people equating Bush with Catholicism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleFan Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 [quote name='BG45' post='1499527' date='Apr 14 2008, 08:49 PM']As for the OP...I'm of the school that Bush is not really a Born Again Christian with his evasion of "It was a process". Talk to anyone you know online or offline who is a "Born Again Christian", self included, and they will tell you all about the day, the time, [b]every minute detail[/b]. So it would not surprise me, if I am right about him, that when the Fullness of Truth smacked him upside the head from those he surrounds himself with, he would be attracted to it.[/quote] I've known plenty of Protestants who described their conversion as more of a process. Many identify a certain moment (or maybe several) along the way, but not all Protestants buy into the "got saved at this specific place and time" deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 [quote name='Deus_te_Amat' post='1499462' date='Apr 14 2008, 06:34 PM']An affair with Marilyn Monroe comes to mind...[/quote] 1) There is now hard evidence of this alledged affair 2) If it did occur, it did not effect Mr. Kennedy's policies. 3) John & Cindy McCain got busy while he was still married the first time 4) Many, many Popes of the Church have had affairs. 5) It is not couthed to speak illy of the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) You said to name one thing not Catholic. So I did. I watched a documentary about Marilyn Monroe, and it said that she had affairs with both President Kennedy, and his brother. John McCain is not Catholic. Again, you said to name one unCatholic thing, not that I mean that it is okay to have an affair if you aren't Catholic... I dont particularly like McCain either. I say the same "unCatholic" thing about those Popes. Man oh Man, I wish that people would stop speaking ill of Jesus then... especially since the ones who speak illy are the ones that say He is dead Edited April 15, 2008 by Deus_te_Amat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 [quote name='Deus_te_Amat' post='1499675' date='Apr 14 2008, 09:38 PM']You said to name one thing not Catholic. So I did. I watched a documentary about Marilyn Monroe, and it said that she had affairs with both President Kennedy, and his brother. I say the same "unCatholic" thing about those Popes.[/quote] If having an affiars un-Catholic, those Popes most difinately are. Also please show me hard envidence of the Monroe/Kennedy Affair. And if it did occur how did it effect the other aspects of his presidency. O,and saying Jesus is dead is heresy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus te Amat Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) I never said that Jesus was dead. I said that the people who speak against Jesus say that He is dead. Therefore speaking "illy of the dead" which you said was uncouth. I thought it was humourous. Don't hate (don't hate, appreciate) the sinner, hate (don't hate, appreciate) the sin. The popes made mistakes. So did JFK. Big deal. You said to name one unCatholic thing that JFK did. I did. Those Popes you speak of did that unCatholic thing too. It doesn't make breaking "thou shall not commit adultery" any less of a mortal sin. Edited April 15, 2008 by Deus_te_Amat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) Prove the Kennedy Monroe Affair actually happened. Edited April 15, 2008 by catholicinsd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Kennedy is probably the most overrated president in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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