Condi Rice To Consider Vp Slot?

[Lounge Daddy]

The hopeful rumors continue, although (unlike Clinton) Condi Rice has never been coy about her plans. She always very clearly and very directly and very frequently answers "no" when asked about the possibility of a Presidential run, or about the possibility of a VP spot on a ticket.

Still persistent rumors of the "someone said that she said" variety continue. I saw [url="http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/condoleezza_rice_vp/2008/03/27/83512.html"]this one[/url] today at News max.

[quote]Despite saying she wants to return to Stanford University, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has let it be known in Republican circles that she would consider running for vice president if asked.

One source told Newsmax that she expressed interest in the possibility when Rudy Giuliani was running for president. Another source said she has more recently let her interest be known discreetly within top Republican circles, presumably including John McCain’s camp.

Fueling speculation that she would consider being on the ticket, Rice appeared for the first time this week at the so-called Wednesday meeting run by Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. Rice spoke for 20 minutes at the off-the-record meeting of conservative leaders, then took questions for 20 minutes.

Presidential candidates, White House aides, Cabinet officers, and members of Congress routinely speak to the group, but the talks generally are far shorter. In her talk, Rice stuck to foreign policy. When asked about her future, she said she plans to teach at Stanford, where she was once provost, and she plans to write a book.

Asked for comment, an aide to Rice said it was “not true” that she has expressed interest in a run and pointed to what she said at the Wednesday meeting about intending to return to Stanford.[/quote]

[Mercy me]

I can see her being the choice. I don't see that she would deliver any state and she could be a liability. As the Secretary of State she would represent a third Bush term. I am a huge fan of Dr. Rice and think that she would be a great VP but I don't see her getting it.

[ColinAH]

I agree with Mercy Me. I like her, not gonna happen.

[kujo]

A few years ago, I would've enthusiastically said yes. Now, like MercyMe, I see her name on the ticket being more a liability than a benefit. She's not particularly Republican in her views, and doesn't present much of an advantage beyond the fact that she's a black woman.

I read a book a few years back called [u]Condi VS Hillary[/u] that laid out a case for her running for President if/when Hillary ran with the thought being the only way to defeat the first viable woman candidate for President was to have a [b]black woman[/b] run against her. But now that that has come to pass and proven unnecessary, I don't see much to be gained.

[CatherineM]

If McCain wants to win, he needs to distance himself for anything and anyone associated with Bush. He's a smart enough guy to keep his distance from Rice.

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='kujo' post='1488726' date='Mar 30 2008, 10:25 AM']But now that that has come to pass and proven unnecessary[/quote]

mmm I wouldn't write her off so easily, or do you think McCain has it in the bag?... I think Obama will take the nomination and most likely the whole thing. but we'll see.

[kujo]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1488987' date='Mar 30 2008, 07:42 PM']mmm I wouldn't write her off so easily, or do you think McCain has it in the bag?... I think Obama will take the nomination and most likely the whole thing. but we'll see.[/quote]

I see McCain's weaknesses lie not in getting to the fringe voters that such a VP would appeal to (i.e.- undecided women and African-Americans); rather, he's gonna have to continue to make in-roads with Republican base--the Federalists, the Christian Right, and the Loud-mouth Ideologues (i.e.- Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter). To do so, he will have to have a VP who appeals to all or at the very least satiates all 3 of those groups. Because, let's be honest: the Democrats are getting record numbers in the primaries and every single registered Republican needs to vote in order for the Republicans to have a chance this fall.

And I agree...Obama is gonna get this nomination, and most likely the whole thing.

[littleflower+JMJ]

I think Rice has a lot of appeal and respect from a lot of people from both sides to be someone who will certainly make people stop and double think at the least. But thats my experience and even though its probably not even true that its a possibility, thats my thoughts.

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='kujo' post='1489076' date='Mar 30 2008, 08:32 PM']I see McCain's weaknesses lie not in getting to the fringe voters that such a VP would appeal to (i.e.- undecided women and African-Americans); rather, he's gonna have to continue to make in-roads with Republican base--the Federalists, the Christian Right, and the Loud-mouth Ideologues (i.e.- Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter). To do so, he will have to have a VP who appeals to all or at the very least satiates all 3 of those groups. Because, let's be honest: the Democrats are getting record numbers in the primaries and every single registered Republican needs to vote in order for the Republicans to have a chance this fall.

And I agree...Obama is gonna get this nomination, and most likely the whole thing.[/quote]

okay, yeah I was just confused by your last post.

[Dismas]

Also note that working a cabinet position doesn't leave much time to campaign, shake hands and kiss babies.

[Justin86]

If Condi gets the VP nomination from McCain it'll only be because she's black. If Obama gets the the Presidential nomination it'll only be because he's black. Wow, being white is all of a sudden a disadvantage in America. Should we be demanding reparations?

Anyway, as for Obama actually winning the White House, I disagree. There is no way Americans are going to vote for someone overtly racist like him. Blacks will, but no one else. The idea that Democrats are coming out in droves to vote for Obama is false. They are coming out and voting for Hillary in very similar numbers. That is precisely why we won't know who the Democratic nominee is until the Party holds their convention in Denver. Kujo, don't let Ann fool you. She's the only well known conservative voice saying that she won't vote for McCain. Even on your list of "loud mouthed ideologues" she's still the only one. Republicans are much more united behind John McCain then you think, that would be why we actually have a nominee at this point, and the Democrats don't.

Getting back to real losers of 2008, the Democrats, it makes since that when you run a white woman against a black man, that Democrats wouldn't be able to decide whom to pick. Those two groups have never worked well together, and aren't starting to any time soon. The only chance the Democrats have of nominating a candidate this election will be at their convention, and even then, as Hillary has accurately pointed out, there really is no such thing as a "pledged delegate" in the Democratic party. This should be fun to watch.

Edited April 5, 2008 by Justin86

[Justin86]

[quote name='kujo' post='1488726' date='Mar 31 2008, 01:25 AM']I read a book a few years back called [u]Condi VS Hillary[/u] that laid out a case for her running for President if/when Hillary ran with the thought being the only way to defeat the first viable woman candidate for President was to have a [b]black woman[/b] run against her. But now that that has come to pass and proven unnecessary, I don't see much to be gained.[/quote]
I think it's funny how Johnsonville brat Morris is almost always wrong. Of course, his claim to fame is completely false to begin with. He didn't get Bill Clinton elected, third party candidates taking away Republican votes did. He's such a loser.

[Lounge Daddy]

I just saw the headline at Drudge Report, and [url="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/dan-senor-condo.html"]it comes from ABC News[/url]. It looks like some good sources, and not the usual hopeful longings for a Condi Rice candidacy.



[quote][b]Condoleezza Rice Is Pursuing the VP Spot[/b]

April 06, 2008 11:48 AM

ABCNews’ Mary Bruce Reports: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is actively courting the vice presidential nomination, Republican strategist Dan Senor said.

“Condi Rice has been actively, actually in recent weeks, campaigning for this,” Senor said this morning on “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.”

According to Senor, Rice has been cozying up to the Republican elite.

“There's this ritual in Washington: The Americans for Tax Reform, which is headed by Grover Norquist, he holds a weekly meeting of conservative leaders -- about 100, 150 people, sort of inside, chattering, class types,” Senor said. “They all typically get briefings from political conservative leaders. Ten days ago, they had an interesting visit -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice -- the first time a secretary of state has visited the Wednesday meeting.”

Senor explained that Rice’s history in public office would make her a prime candidate, especially in light of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain’s emphasis on experience throughout his campaign.

“What the McCain campaign has to consider is whether or not they want to pick a total outsider, a fresh face, someone a lot younger than him, a governor who people aren't that familiar with," Senor said. "The challenge they're realizing is that they'll have to have to spend 30 to 45 days, which they won't have at that point, educating the American public about who this person is.

“The other category is someone who people instantly say, the second they see that announcement, 'I get it, that person could be president tomorrow,'" Senor added. "Condi Rice is an option.”[/quote]

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='Justin86' post='1493033' date='Apr 5 2008, 05:09 PM']He's such a loser.[/quote]
Hey, I kinda like Morris. I don't always agree with his views--in fact, more often than not I disagree with his views. But I dig his work.

[kujo]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1494006' date='Apr 6 2008, 11:54 PM']I just saw the headline at Drudge Report, and [url="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/dan-senor-condo.html"]it comes from ABC News[/url]. It looks like some good sources, and not the usual hopeful longings for a Condi Rice candidacy.[/quote]

Meh.

We'll see. I still say that it would be more advantageous for him to select a VP who would not only enhance his experience message, but would provide a balast to his weaknesses Romney, in my opinion, though more than qualified to be Vice President or President, brings nothing to the table in alleviating McCain's greatest weakness-- shoring up the votes of the Christian Right. A McCain-Huckabee ticket, however, could be formiddable. Huckabee may not appeal to the Republican base (i.e.- the Federalist/small government people) but would be a caveat to the far-right of the Republican party who question his commitment to Christian values and who are suspiscious of his past denouncements of some of their heroes like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. Futhermore, his stance on getting rid of the IRS may find some believers in a general election.

The bottomline is that McCain needs to churn out the evangelicals if he even wants to entertain a victory in November. Democratic turnout in these primaries has been so high that virtually-every registered Republican needs to vote for McCain in order for him to be successful.

Edited April 7, 2008 by kujo