willguy Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Remember, be civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Remember, be civil. then why'd you post in Open Mic if you think it won't stay civil? It'll probably end up in the Debate Table anywayz. Oh well, my two cents are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathgirl Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 One thing...."It was Adam and Eve , not Adam and Steve ...i'm done. (I wanted to add that to my sig but it won't let me!!! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INRIWarrior3 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Gay marriage is the bigger threat because the goverment CAN do something about it (legalize it or amend the Constitution). The goverment can't fix the divorce rate. By the way, I just got off the phone with a friend of mine that goes to the Univ. of Houston. He's a part of the College Republicans and is going to get the paper work to create an organization on that campus for defenders of traditional marriage. The deal is that a close friend of his, and an organizer for this organization also, has very close ties to one of our state senators in Texas, John Cornin. They are going to start a petition on U of H's campus to send to Senator Cornin with 'x' number of names that will cause him to come back to Houston to talk about it with us. I say 'us' because he asked me to get my organization invovled (I'm the president of the theology club at the University of St. Thomas just down the road). Cornin is important because he is the head of the senatorial committee that oversees constitutional law (I think, I'm not that much of a poly sci. person) and if we get him down here in Houston to address this it will cause so much media attention that we're hoping he'll take it back to the Capitol to his committee where they will start to draw up a constitutional amendment protecting the sacred union of marriage. I say all this and ask for your deepest prayers and ask the Holy Family for their intercession. This could get big, God willing. God bless. INRIWarrior3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Gay Marriage is definitly more of a threat to society's definition of the Institution, but Divorce is a greater threat to the Sacrament of Marriage because it actually divides the Christian home and rejects the union that GOD has brought together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodsThespianChic Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Coming from a divorced home...I actually think that same-sex marriage is a much bigger threat. My family actually became closer to God once my dad left us. But that's besides the point. I am totally, completely, 200% against same-sex marriage. I think it is wrong, immoral, and just not right! I had to do a current events article review in order to earn extra credit in American History Honors last semester. I got an article about same-sex marriage. Basically, my review was along the lines that God made man and woman. He intended for them to fit together the way they did. God created the Holy institution of marriage to unite Man and Woman in His name. So...how does that give same-sex marriages the right to exist? It doesn't. It's totally against God. The idea of it disgusts me. They have their "civil unions", and that should be good enough. See, I realize that homosexual couples want actual marriage because that way they are considered next of kin and can decide what happens, should something happen to the other member of the relationship. But see, even being together is living in sin. I think they should expand civil unions to include giving the rights that would normally be given to next of kin, but that may even be taking it too far. I don't know...I have my opinions and I may have some things wrong, but I really feel strongly about this issue. So there it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Hard to say. They're both wrong. Same-sex marriage probably disgusts more people, and will be a FURTHER slide down the slippery slope, and we DO have a chance to stop it NOW, but divorce has had more time to wreak havoc on society, particularly due to the negative effects on the children and the general societal acceptance of it lately. But in 20 years, if the same-sex marriage trend is not stopped, I'm sure it will catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thicke Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Same sex marriage will de-value the sanctity of marriage, which will increase the the divorce rate. If marriage isn't important, then neither is keeping one together. So, simple logic says same sex marriage is the bigger threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 I chose same sex marriage because the divorce rate seems to be a different kind of thing. Same sex marriage would in many ways be the codifying of many ideals of the sexual revolution which have led to the high divorce rate. The divorce rate in itself is more a symptom than a cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 This isn't meant to be a debate...but...Wouldn't the fact that SameSex Marriage is sort of trendy right now, and the fact that the Church will never entertain it's concept make it lesser than Divorce, which has proven to damage spirituality and Western Society since Henry VIII? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 This isn't meant to be a debate...but...Wouldn't the fact that SameSex Marriage is sort of trendy right now, and the fact that the Church will never entertain it's concept make it lesser than Divorce, which has proven to damage spirituality and Western Society since Henry VIII? Well, I think the question has a certain lack of clarity. I responded based on the assumption that option two is the fact of the high divorce rate, not divorce in itself. And that option one implies the threat of homosexual marriage in itself, so I answered as if it was legal and common practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalscout Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 It all depends. If we are talking about the emperical definition of marriage that says "MAN and WOMAN" then same sex marriages are the greater threat. Divorce is a failed marriage but a valid marriage none the less. Sam sex is the greater threat because it causes us to redifine marriage. If we are talking about the permanent union of love between a man and a woman bound by God, that is the Sacrament of Marriage, then divorce is the greater threat. This is way too deep for a simple poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 It all depends. If we are talking about the emperical definition of marriage that says "MAN and WOMAN" then same sex marriages are the greater threat. Divorce is a failed marriage but a valid marriage none the less. Sam sex is the greater threat because it causes us to redifine marriage. If we are talking about the permanent union of love between a man and a woman bound by God, that is the Sacrament of Marriage, then divorce is the greater threat. This is way too deep for a simple poll. Good point. I think that's how I see it. A divorce is terrible, but it is the breaking of one marriage (or many), but legitimizing homosexual marriage would officially demolish the institution of marriage. It would no longer be marriage as we know it. It would be a concept and institution entirely divorced (no pun intended) from the truth of human sexuality as male and female and the life-giving, complimentary love that is the essence of marriage. The nuptial meaning of the body would be utterly obscured and implicitly denied. etc. etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 (edited) It's a poll.. duh.. :blush: Edited February 19, 2004 by Laudate_Dominum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 same sex marriage will add to the divorce rate. more ppl married, a lot of gay couples tend to be unstable ( i say alot, not all).. do the math. same sex marriage is a bigger threat, not only does it mess with the sanctity of marriage, if we count those as marriages we havta count those separations as divorces and that's gonna skyrocket the divorce rate too. it will completely demolish the country's view of marriage and begin to rip the fabric of society at the seems. may God have mercy on our country. may God have mercy on those souls who seek to marry unknowing of their true vocation to chastity. may God have mercy on those self-righteous law-makers abusing their office for what they think are 'civil rights' Arise, oh Lord, and let thine enemies be scatter. and let those that hate thee FLEE from before thy Face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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