Pontifite 7 of 10 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 This is one of the last things Jesus said before he died on the cross for us, he said something interesting. Something to the effect of "Father why have you abandoned me"... This is what he said exactly: Matthew 27:46- [quote]"Jesus cried out in a loud voice, ‘My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?[/quote] What do you think he meant? This is a very confusing subject and people have left the Church cause they think God totally left Jesus alone in his time of need. The people mentioned think this is enforced by what Mother Teresa said when she wrote: "I don't feel God today". So, what do you think he was trying to tell us when he said this? Thank you and God Bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin86 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Wasn't He actually quoting a Pslam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontifite 7 of 10 Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 [quote name='Justin86' post='1450969' date='Jan 25 2008, 11:27 PM']Wasn't He actually quoting a Pslam?[/quote] [quote]Psalm 22 1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning?[/quote] That got resolved to fast for my likeing. But thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 In 2001, I had a mild heart attack. My father had died of a heart attack after having had several previous ones. After one of his earlier ones, he talked to me about what it felt like to lay there thinking you were going to die. When I was wheeled into the ER, and the first thing the doctor did was give me nitro, I had watched enough hospital shows on TV to know what that meant. I was terrified. You're in a very noisy room, surrounded by people, but you still feel very much alone. All you can hear is the beating of your own heart in your ears. Even if his father had been calling out to him, Jesus might not have been able to hear him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Yearning Heart Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 This is my thoughts on it (mind you, I'm no theologist). By His crucifiction and Passion (indeed, his entire life), Jesus bore all of our sins. Including the consequences of those sins, mostly being our separation from God. I'm not too good at expressing myself and I certainly am not saying that the Father left Jesus alone during his passion but that Jesus (in his humanity) felt alone and isolated from God (when he wasn't really). Many saints have experienced this feeling of abandonment by God (dark night of the soul). Maybe, too it is also an example for us to follow: to call out to God when we feel abandoned. Although Jesus felt abandoned, He still cried out to his Father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Yearning Heart Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 also check out what Pope John Paul II had to say on the matter [url="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/audiences/alpha/data/aud19881130en.html"]http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_pau...19881130en.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathoholic_anonymous Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 According to traditional Jewish practice, quoting the first two lines of the psalm is meant to make your listeners think of the whole psalm. It's a shorthand reference. That psalm has messianic prophecies in it - I think Jesus wanted to draw people's attention to them. He was not abandoned. No one ever is. He may have [i]felt[/i] abandoned, though, and that is another story. We need to learn that our feelings are rarely infallible, especially when we are in great pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin86 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Pslam 21 (Douay-Rheims) 1 Unto the end, for the morning protection, a psalm for David. 2 O God my God, look upon me: why hast thou forsaken me? Far from my salvation are the words of my sins. The words of my sins... That is, the sins of the world, which I have taken upon myself, cry out against me, and are the cause of all my sufferings. 3 O my God, I shall cry by day, and thou wilt not hear: and by night, and it shall not be reputed as folly in me. 4 But thou dwellest in the holy place, the praise of Israel. 5 In thee have our fathers hoped: they have hoped, and thou hast delivered them. 6 They cried to thee, and they were saved: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded. 7 But I am a worm, and no man: the reproach of men, and the outcast of the people. 8 All they that saw me have laughed me to scorn: they have spoken with the lips, and wagged the head. 9 He hoped in the Lord, let him deliver him: let him save him, seeing he delighteth in him. 10 For thou art he that hast drawn me out of the womb: my hope from the breasts of my mother. 11 I was cast upon thee from the womb. From my mother's womb thou art my God, 12 Depart not from me. For tribulation is very near: for there is none to help me. 13 Many calves have surrounded me: fat bulls have besieged me. 14 They have opened their mouths against me, as a lion ravening and roaring. 15 I am poured out like water; and all my bones are scattered. My heart is become like wax melting in the midst of my bowels. 16 My strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue hath cleaved to my jaws: and thou hast brought me down into the dust of death. 17 For many dogs have encompassed me: the council of the malignant hath besieged me. They have dug my hands and feet. 18 They have numbered all my bones. And they have looked and stared upon me. 19 They parted my garments amongst them; and upon my vesture they cast lots. 20 But thou, O Lord, remove not thy help to a distance from me; look towards my defence. 21 Deliver, O God, my soul from the sword: my only one from the hand of the dog. 22 Save me from the lion's mouth; and my lowness from the horns of the unicorns. 23 I will declare thy name to my brethren: in the midst of the church will I praise thee. 24 Ye that fear the Lord, praise him: all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him. 25 Let all the seed of Israel fear him: because he hath not slighted nor despised the supplication of the poor man. Neither hath he turned away his face form me: and when I cried to him he heard me. 26 With thee is my praise in a great church: I will pay my vows in the sight of them that fear him. 27 The poor shall eat and shall be filled: and they shall praise the Lord that seek him: their hearts shall live for ever and ever. 28 All the ends of the earth shall remember, and shall be converted to the Lord: And all the kindreds of the Gentiles shall adore in his sight. 29 For the kingdom is the Lord's; and he shall have dominion over the nations. 30 All the fat ones of the earth have eaten and have adored: all they that go down to the earth shall fall before him. 31 And to him my soul shall live: and my seed shall serve him. 32 There shall be declared to the Lord a generation to come: and the heavens shall show forth his justice to a people that shall be born, which the Lord hath made [url="http://www.newadvent.org/bible/psa021.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/bible/psa021.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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