Ash Wednesday Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 (edited) Apparently Father Amorth, who is a chief exorcist of rome and apparently the Church's leading exorcist, has spoken out against them, which I find interesting. I think the key here, as far as how he and the pope feel -- is how appropriate or potentially harmful the books are for those who do not have a strong concept of what magic is and what it isn't -- I think the warnings are meant to address, in particular, the best interests of impressionable young children. So I think people ought to try to understand what it is Vatican officials are trying to say without taking offense or getting so defensive about it. It's not exactly authority or binding but there's nothing wrong with hearing them out. I'm trying to read the books myself and I'm not exactly riveted by them like others apparently are. I am feeling about as mildly engaged and ho-hum about them as I have watching the movies. Just kind of glad they are over with after each one ends. So I guess if I am able to have kids and they ask me for my opinion, I'll say "Well kids, I think Harry Potter is kind of boring, actually." Edited January 19, 2008 by Ash Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Esteemed and dear Ms. Kuby! Many thanks for your kind letter of February 20th and the informative book which you sent me in the same mail. It is good, that you enlighten people about Harry Potter, because those are subtle seductions, which act unnoticed and by this deeply distort Christianity in the soul, before it can grow properly. I would like to suggest that you write to Mr. Peter Fleetwood, (Pontifical Council of Culture, Piazza S. Calisto 16, I00153 Rome) directly and to send him your book. Sincere Greetings and Blessings, + Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger ======================= Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger Vatican City May 27, 2003 Esteemed and dear Ms. Kuby, Somehow your letter got buried in the large pile of name-day , birthday and Easter mail. Finally this pile is taken care of, so that I can gladly allow you to refer to my judgment about Harry Potter. Sincere Greetings and Blessings, + Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Yeah, that letter doesn't seem to say much except for "hey, this is an important issue, but you might wanna talk to this other guy about it." He also says that it's an important issue, which actually gives some credence to these extremely long Harry Potter debates--because he seems to think it's worth discussing. I think the exorcist's comments are more valid if you want to say that the Vatican is opposed to Harry Potter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 [quote name='XIX' post='1447887' date='Jan 19 2008, 07:24 PM']Yeah, that letter doesn't seem to say much except for "hey, this is an important issue, but you might wanna talk to this other guy about it."[/quote] It says more than that. He states that the books have "[u]subtle seductions[/u], which act unnoticed and by this deeply distort Christianity." The Master of seduction is Satan, and he always does so in a subtle way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1447821' date='Jan 19 2008, 09:12 PM']And in the 1700's the vatican was against the thought world being round.[/quote] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-sphere"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-sphere[/url] [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1447889' date='Jan 20 2008, 12:27 AM']It says more than that. He states that the books have "[u]subtle seductions[/u], which act unnoticed and by this deeply distort Christianity." The Master of seduction is Satan, and he always does so in a subtle way.[/quote] It's fiction!!!!!!! Edited January 19, 2008 by RandomProddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 So is the Golden Compass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 So is James Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dusk Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 so are telly tubbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosieranna Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 [quote name='RandomProddy' post='1447893' date='Jan 19 2008, 05:37 PM']It's fiction!!!!!!![/quote] Thank you! I keep saying that, but it doesn't seem to sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Tell it to the Pope.†Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dusk Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1448056' date='Jan 19 2008, 09:49 PM']Tell it to the Pope.†[/quote] Just because he's pope doesn't make him 100% right. There were popes who said the world was flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 I believe the Holy Father to be a very intelligent man, his judgment on Potter should be held at a very high level, more so than the opinion of our own. And because something is fiction does not make it ok to read... ie The Golden Compass, Romance Novels... which are basically porn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 So is Uncle Crimbo!!!... wait... we're over that, aren't we... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1448064' date='Jan 19 2008, 07:56 PM']Just because he's pope doesn't make him 100% right. There were popes who said the world was flat.[/quote] No pope has ever defended that the world is flat. There were popes who thought that the sun revolved around the earth. But that's a whole lot different than saying the world is flat. Edited January 20, 2008 by StThomasMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dusk Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 [quote name='StThomasMore' post='1448078' date='Jan 19 2008, 10:14 PM']No pope has ever defended that the world is flat. There were popes who thought that the sun revolved around the earth. But that's a whole lot different than saying the world is flat.[/quote] Whatever it was they were wrong, it happened once, it can happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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