Easternization Of The Roman Rite

[Resurrexi]

In the last half-century, there has been much de-latinization of the Eastern Rites. Anything considered even remotely Latin was removed from Eastern Catholic worship. One can argue whether this was for the better or for the worse, but regardless, that is not the topic of this thread. What this thread is about is that, in the midst of the de-latinization of the Eastern Church, our own Roman Rite experienced much [i]easternization[/i] when its Ordinary Form was made by the [i]Consilium[/i]. Several things which were entirely foreign to the Roman liturgy as it had been known for centuries, but which were a part of the Eastern liturgies before this new Use was made, and which were included in this new Form were the liturgy being said in the vernacular, certain prayers not being prayed by the priest while being sung by the choir, the prayers of the faithful, the offertory procession, an audible Canon, Communion of the faithful under both Species, and Communion standing, among others. I now have two questions to ask: If self-imposed latinization of the Eastern Churches is so wrong, why is forced easterniziation of the Latin Church permissible? What was the purpose of this easternization if these easternizations do not seem to be well-liked by either Eastern Catholics or the Eastern Orthodox and seem more to repulse them?

[qfnol31]

From my understanding, a lot of the "Easternizations" were actually remnants from the old Rites, which I believe includes the old Latin Rite.

Communion under both Sacred Species is actually a very old Latin practice, which Trent said can come back (my biggest beef with SSPX is they deny this).

I have mentioned on here before that a great supporter of the extraordinary form continually talks about Vatican II and music. The council decreed that if the choir sings, the Priest doesn't have to pray. For him, this was the best decree of the council. When the choir sings (well), they pray (twice). If the Priest repeats the prayer, does that invalidate the choir's prayer? By the way, this Priest did his doctorate on Gregorian chant, and knows more than everyone else I know combined x 100 on Gregorian chant, if that makes sense.


I agree we shouldn't Easternize the Latin Rite, but unfortunately most people don't understand the old Latin Rite very well, so it's hard to know what is was like more than 500 years ago, without getting a Tridentine bias involved. In other words, I don't think that the changes were necessarily Easternizing.

Edited January 10, 2008 by qfnol31