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[quote name='Aloysius' post='1443623' date='Jan 9 2008, 01:59 AM']I think you missed something. Paul has said a lot about healthcare. He talks about getting rid of restrictions that stand in the way of doctors and patients actually coming to agreements over payments, saying that a doctor ought to be able to enter into a private contract with his patient independent of insurance companies and lawyers and such. he wants to get the government out of healthcare and have things be more free-market based.

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More in-depth interview:
part 1: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=lWLwJyc0ZqI"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=lWLwJyc0ZqI[/url]
part 2: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=khJ6lS9utl8"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=khJ6lS9utl8[/url]

I did notice in the recent ABC New Hampshire Debate, Fred Thompson tried to twist Paul's words to sound like he supported government. The problem is that Paul doesn't rudely interrupt as much as the other candidates, and the moderator doesn't go out of his way to give Paul more time, so often he doesn't end up with a good response when someone tries to twist his ideas.

[url="http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/health-freedom/"]http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/health-freedom/[/url]
Under his writings you can find the topic of Free Market Medicine.

But his opposition to the FDA is also a great thing for health.

Here you see him directing that to the economic issues such as the war: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=DLauMl7iXlM"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=DLauMl7iXlM[/url]

I really wish Paul would be more aggressive like the other candidates who rudely interrupt in childish ways, Paul got cut off trying to answer Fred Thompson by saying "then we wouldn't HAVE to provide everyone with health-care"... he was talking about how health-care prices are high because of the monetary problems.[/quote]
This is one of my beefs with Paul. He's a great youtube candidate. The clips of his interviews with obscure groups and C-Span committee hearings make him look fantastic, but he's gotta do better in the debates and shorter interviews. This is simply because that is where he has the most national exposure. Most people don't thoroughly research who they're going to vote for. He's gotta step up and say more than just how the war is the cause of all our problems or how bringing troops home will improve health care. Those are far stretches for almost everyone. Instead, he needs to focus on the question by giving the actual answer. We already know you're anti-war. You don't have to mention it every time. If you're on a FNC debate, they'll practically remind the audience every time you speak so there's no need to bring it up.

[st-annes]

Libertarianism is "I want stuff for me." They talk about personal rights as if nothing you do affects anyone else, and we're not in a country, we're in some ancient cabal of city-states. Get real.

Ron Paul is great if you have lots of guns or you want to smoke pot. He's this year's Ralph Nader or Ross Perot.

[Deb]

[quote name='st-annes' post='1443669' date='Jan 9 2008, 10:29 AM']Libertarianism is "I want stuff for me." They talk about personal rights as if nothing you do affects anyone else, and we're not in a country, we're in some ancient cabal of city-states. Get real.

Ron Paul is great if you have lots of guns or you want to smoke pot. He's this year's Ralph Nader or Ross Perot.[/quote]

I have to agree with you on most of what you said. Libertarians are mostly about them self. Let me do whatever I want and to hell with the rest of society. We are a society. We are all in this world together and we are brothers and sisters under God our father. We should not be using "I" for anything, it should always be "we."
I agree with Ron Paul's stance on abortion, war and foreign policy but, not about much else. He is too hard core on most issues and I will never agree with his misguided gun control issues.
Then again, it really doesn't matter who holds the office. It matters who holds the Presidents strings and what Congress does or fails to do. The republican congress of Bush's years and his advisors are destroying us from within. We don't need terrorists to do that. The democrats now, they aren't much better but at least war isn't their favorite pasttime.
I think I shall not pay any more attention to any of this until the candidates have been chose.

[Didymus]

[quote name='Aloysius' post='1443623' date='Jan 9 2008, 01:59 AM']I think you missed something. Paul has said a lot about healthcare. He talks about getting rid of restrictions that stand in the way of doctors and patients actually coming to agreements over payments, saying that a doctor ought to be able to enter into a private contract with his patient independent of insurance companies and lawyers and such. he wants to get the government out of healthcare and have things be more free-market based.

Basic Ad: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=ENfMexgorp4&feature=related"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ENfMexgorp4&feature=related[/url]

More in-depth interview:
part 1: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=lWLwJyc0ZqI"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=lWLwJyc0ZqI[/url]
part 2: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=khJ6lS9utl8"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=khJ6lS9utl8[/url]

I did notice in the recent ABC New Hampshire Debate, Fred Thompson tried to twist Paul's words to sound like he supported government. The problem is that Paul doesn't rudely interrupt as much as the other candidates, and the moderator doesn't go out of his way to give Paul more time, so often he doesn't end up with a good response when someone tries to twist his ideas.

[url="http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/health-freedom/"]http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/health-freedom/[/url]
Under his writings you can find the topic of Free Market Medicine.

But his opposition to the FDA is also a great thing for health.

Here you see him directing that to the economic issues such as the war: [url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=DLauMl7iXlM"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=DLauMl7iXlM[/url]

I really wish Paul would be more aggressive like the other candidates who rudely interrupt in childish ways, Paul got cut off trying to answer Fred Thompson by saying "then we wouldn't HAVE to provide everyone with health-care"... he was talking about how health-care prices are high because of the monetary problems, which include the spending on the war. But he didn't direct the question that way, the question was worded that way.[/quote]

thank you.

and btw I do agree wholeheartedly that he should have been in the fox forum.

[ThyWillBeDone]

I cannot comprehend how anyone takes Ron Paul seriously especially as a Republican. His foreign policy is insane. He advocates bringing all troops over seas home, all of them. "We could save hundreds of billions of dollars if we had a sensible foreign policy." Yeah he could save hundreds of billions of dollars with his plan but it is not a sensible foreign policy. He seems to think Islamic terrorist hate us because we have bases in the in Arab world, this may be part of it but it is not the key part.

[quote]It's not because we are wealthy & prosperous & free. They come here because we are in their country. Permanent bases [in Iraq & elsewhere in the Arab world] just mean that we have expanded the opportunity for the terrorists to come here because there is greater motivation. So, if we want to protect ourselves against terrorism, we have to understand what motivates them.

Ron Paul CNN Late Edition: 2007 presidential series with Wolf Blitzer Dec 2, 2007[/quote]

If we pulled out of all Arab countries would they leave us alone, NO!. Look at the History of Islam. Mohammed died in 630, within a hundred years his followers had conquered the Holy Land, North Africa, and Spain. Throughout the Middle Ages they continued attempts to conquer Europe. Need I remind you of the story of Lepanto and Our Lady of Victory. Anyway the point is the is something much deeper behind Islamic terrorist attacks on the Christian west, something philosophical and theological, that will not be solved by simply leaving them alone. And pulling out of Middle East would be reckless and would only give Islamic terrorist a safe place to train and prepare for future attacks. Ron Paul needs to wake up and see this (and so do his fans).

[Spamity Calamity]

[quote name='Deb' post='1443678' date='Jan 9 2008, 11:04 AM']. He is too hard core on most issues and I will never agree with his misguided gun control issues.[/quote]

The only issues he has with gun control is that there should be less of it. And I totally agree with that.