Election 2008

[rkwright]

I'd like to come back to this thread in a YEAR, thats right the election is a whole YEAR away (well just under it...) Can anyone say Howard Dean??

[BG45]

If not Huckabee or Paul for the RNC, I don't see a Republican I'd vote for. Obama is the only Democrat I'd give the time of day. If a good third party candidate could come out of the wings, I might consider him or her.

My first Presidential election was in 2004, I voted Libertarian for lack of being able to bring myself to vote for Bush or Kerry after their respective campaigns. My conscience wouldn't allow it.

[CrossCuT]

[size=1]Im torn between Romney and Paul.

Up untill recently I was pretty positive I was going to vote for Romney. He is strong and outspoken and I really liked how much he cherishes the family values. He is Pro-Life (even though people like to bash him because he hasnt always held those views) which is also another positive!

But I started looking into Ron Paul (Yep...you can take credit for that one Aloysius) and I have liked what I found. I like how Pro-Life he is, his views on limited government, and how he wants to get back to the way our founding fathers intended this country to be. However the one BIG turn off is his opinion on the war. The fact that he is against it doesnt bother me as much as what he plans to DO with that opinion. Pulling out all the troops scares the carp outa me because I suspect that we are gonna have to start building bomb shelters in our backyards.

I am torn.
I am, however, more inclined to vote for Romney. I fear that if I DO vote for Paul (who has a lesser chance of making it) I will be taking away the steam Romney needs to overcome people like Gulliani.



I am no expert on politics though.
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Edited December 13, 2007 by CrossCuT

[Ash Wednesday]

[quote name='rkwright' post='1433570' date='Dec 12 2007, 11:25 PM']Can anyone say Howard Dean??[/quote]

[size=7][b][font="Arial Black"][color="#FF0000"]YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/color][/font][/b][/size]

[rkwright]

I just lolled on that one...

Edited December 13, 2007 by rkwright

[KnightofChrist]

LTMQ

[Ash Wednesday]

"I have a scream!"

And yes, Kafka, that is NKOTB. I just felt like being [s]absurdly cheesy[/s] totally awesome.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' post='1433629' date='Dec 12 2007, 10:03 PM']I just felt like being [s]absurdly cheesy[/s] [s]totally awesome.[/s] totally lame[/quote]
there. fixed it for you.

[Ash Wednesday]

I'm blown away by such an act of charity...

[Justin86]

Wow, talk about the worst possible candidates ON EARTH we have to choose from(ok, maybe not earth, but defentley in the country) in either either party.

Gulliani: pro-choice

Romney: pro-life...this week

Paul: repeats liberal propaganda on the war on his website

Huckabee: thinks AIDS patients should be quarntined. Doubts that the virus isn't spread through causal contact. What the heck is wrong with Arkansas?!!! Lets all associate ourselves with this loser!

Keyes: too late of an entry. Don't mean to be racist, but frankly being black doesn't help.

Thompson: Has publicly stated that he thinks he'll never win the nomination. There's a winner for us.

Maybe in the future we can get Bobby Jindal to run? I don't know..........if we manage to survive any of these guys that is.

[Adrestia]

Ash is hanging tough.

"Hanging Tough" was the homecoming theme in my first year of high school. I abstained from that dance in protest.

Why were full names used for the Reps only?

[Aloysius]

wow... you're just as prone to repeat mindless slander about Huckabee as you are about Paul. don't want to defend

he said that in '92, and frankly back then, there was a lot of misinformation going around about HIV/AIDS... there were serious studies being trouted out claiming that it could be spread through casual contact... Huckabee didn't claim to know at the time if that were true or not, but merely talked about things a lot of republicans were talking about back then. He has minced no words about that saying that he did indeed say that, it was the general opinion of many in that day, and that he would not say that now. Unlike Romney's pro-life issues, circumstances and knowledge about the subject actually have changed since Paul said that

notice a lot of older republicans willing to forgive him on that? wanna know why? because thinking back to '92, I'm sure a number of them can find a parallel to their own opinions back then and they understand how that opinion has changed.

Crosscut, the idea that we'd have to build bomb shelters if we started pulling our troops out of places is just not accurate, in my opinion. Al Quaida's number 1 grevience with us is that we have placed "infidel" troops on Saudi Arabia, a peninsula which hadn't barely been touched by infidel feet since the time of Mohammad. It'd be like if Muslims stationed troops in the Vatican (that's the most similar thing I can think of, but it's still drastically different because we don't have qualms against non-Catholics being in the Vatican, they have them about non-muslims being in saudi arabia) If we took troops out of places like Saudi Arabia, you'll find Al Quaida's numbers drastically drop. Iraq's government might become one that is not our particular cup of tea...but then again, it's not our country to decide about.

the stability that came after we left Vietnam would come to Iraq after we left Iraq. might not be pretty, we might not like the government, but it would work. Personally, I'd like to see them be permitted to divide that nation up into smaller nations, these arbitrary lines drawn by the British only serve to sustain the problems.

Paul did vote for the authorization for use of the military to eradicate Al Quaida, of course, he would be in favor of a more defined force targeting them specifically. He doesn't want to construct nation-states in the middle east with American tax-dollars, just destroy our enemies there. not Israel's enemies, mind you, he would let Israel take care of itself (and Israel sure has enough military force to take care of itself over there), he would attack those enemies of the United States that seek to do us harm.

[Ash Wednesday]

I was directly responding to tgoldson just as Al was writing that book. Sigh. I have to look like a compulsive editing freak with that stupid "edited" line again. So here goes.

[quote]Ash is hanging tough.

"Hanging Tough" was the homecoming theme in my first year of high school. I abstained from that dance in protest.[/quote]


What can I say. I actually wasn't into them like my friends were. I just have a strange sense of humor.

Though admittedly if Jonathan ever indeed turned out to be gay then the little 13 year old part of my heart would fracture. Ever so slightly.



Sorry. Back to you Bob.


[size=1]And now the whole world can be let known that:[/size]

Edited December 13, 2007 by Ash Wednesday

[Aloysius]

lol

Ron Paul = Captain Kirk
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gutY7NnNuyA&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gutY7NnNuyA...feature=related[/url]

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='Aloysius' post='1433733' date='Dec 13 2007, 09:43 AM']wow... you're just as prone to repeat mindless slander about Huckabee as you are about Paul. don't want to defend

he said that in '92, and frankly back then, there was a lot of misinformation going around about HIV/AIDS...[/quote]

There was a lot of misinformation going around in the 80s. By the 90s it was common knowledge that AIDS was not a "gay disease" and it was common knowledge that AIDS was not spread via casual contact. Yet Huckabee's comments still implied both.