whiskeyrunner Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I'm a new person. I've always wondered what the Church's problem with Freemasonry was. When I turned 19 I became one like my grandfather. I'm from Milwaukee. There's lots of Catholics in Milwaukee that are Freemasons. Some are even in the Knights of Columbus as well as the Freemasons. Apparently they all thought it was okay to be one at the time. One member of my former lodge said he got permission from the Archbishop of Milwaukee to become a Freemason (not Dolan. He's orthodox thank God. Good prayer book came from that man. Manual of Prayers by OSV). When I joined the organization I even asked a former Tribunal for the Archdiocese who celebrated Mass at my Parish about it and he said it should be okay to be one. I went all the way up the York Rite to the degree of Knight Templar. Never found anything in the rituals or practice that was anti Catholic. I am just wondering why all the confusion happened and why the Vatican still says it is a mortal sin to be one. I even at one point considered leaving the Church to be able to be active in the Freemasons. Only thing that kept me in is that I didn't want to be the goofy guy with the Rosary at the Episcopal church. Our Lady kept me in the Church. I've demitted from the Masons. I'm even a member of the Militia Immaculata. Still wonder though what the Church has against the Freemasons. Any answers? Oh yea, and carry a Miraculous medal. Mary's neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 This has some of the best answers you'll find on that question: [url="http://scripturecatholic.com/freemasonry_qa.html"]http://scripturecatholic.com/freemasonry_qa.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 The short answer (rather than a group of links) - I sponsored a gentleman last year in RCIA who was a freemason so I had to do a lot of research on it, because he also did not understand why it is a mortal sin. The short answer is because they are a religious group - they have a plan of salvation and it is not the Christian plan of salvation. So much so that they do not even worship the same God as we do. They worship a non-trinitarian abstract impersonal god. You can't be both Catholic and freemason anymore than you can be Catholic and pro-abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan1104 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 St. Maximilian was the great apostle of the Miraculous Medal and MI and his prayer was: "O Mary Conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to Thee, and for those who do not have recourse to Thee, especially for the Freemasons." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scardella Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 They took down phatmass yesterday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 My guess was it was some other sort of chumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Catholics are not permitted, by the church, to be a Freemason. I do believe also that it is due to the plan of salvation they have and it is not as the churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I can't tell you how wonderful it is to hear that our Blessed Mother has kept you in the Church! I would suggest that you keep the intention of discerning your involvement with Freemasons when you pray your rosary. I have no doubt that our blessed Mother will take you by the hand and lead you down the right course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1430490' date='Dec 6 2007, 04:28 AM']This has some of the best answers you'll find on that question: [url="http://scripturecatholic.com/freemasonry_qa.html"]http://scripturecatholic.com/freemasonry_qa.html[/url][/quote] Thanks for the link. I have always wondered about Freemasonry and that site does have a lot of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praying4carmel Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Do freemasons really wear "Funny Underwear" with sun and moon symbols on it?? Not Joking, really wanted to know if that was true. Heard the Mormons Temple Mormons do as well, Have not seen Mitt drop his drawers yet so i am not sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dismas Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 [quote name='whiskeyrunner' post='1430487' date='Dec 6 2007, 04:18 AM']I'm from Milwaukee. There's lots of Catholics in Milwaukee that are Freemasons. Some are even in the Knights of Columbus as well as the Freemasons. Apparently they all thought it was okay to be one at the time.[/quote] Blech! Tell me about it. I'm a 3rd Degree Knight of Columbus, and from what I hear, it's a pretty big embarrassment for us Wisconsinites nationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dusk Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 The mormans do have funny shirts...they are called "garments" I saw one by accident...a guy I know got his shirt dirty and borrowed his friends shirt because it didn't have a saying...but he didn't know what it was saying was much worse than a political slogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 [quote name='Autumn Dusk' post='1456167' date='Feb 6 2008, 01:27 AM']The mormans do have funny shirts...they are called "garments" I saw one by accident...a guy I know got his shirt dirty and borrowed his friends shirt because it didn't have a saying...but he didn't know what it was saying was much worse than a political slogan [/quote] I dont understand what is this about a Mormon shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dusk Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 [quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1456170' date='Feb 6 2008, 01:32 AM']I dont understand what is this about a Mormon shirt?[/quote] its like a sign of purity...they wear it during their year-long mandated service trip under their regular clothes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 [quote name='Dismas' post='1456066' date='Feb 5 2008, 10:12 PM']Blech! Tell me about it. I'm a 3rd Degree Knight of Columbus, and from what I hear, it's a pretty big embarrassment for us Wisconsinites nationally.[/quote] What is a big embarrassment? The Masons or being a 3rd degree? I am a 4th Degree Sir Knight and D.G.K. of my council and a member of all 4 degree teams in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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