Gallup: Republicans "much Better Mental Health"

[Ash Wednesday]

I really hate to generalize here, but maybe people more sympathetic to liberal causes have more of an entitlement "I'm not well and I need help" mentality and that shows up in polls of self-diagnosis.

Edited December 1, 2007 by Ash Wednesday

[PopeClementI(MorClemis)]

Actually, the data doesn't back up the initial claim either - that "Republicans: 'much Better Mental Health'" - in fact, the data says nothing like that at all. That interpretation is not claimed from the poll or from researchers.
Also, there is a GIGANTIC in-between area from mentally insane (which is not a medical term, by the way) to healthy.

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1427541' date='Nov 30 2007, 08:16 PM']No, there is have no data to back up your opinion or analysis, Gallup has data, formed from polling persons questions, and not purely from there own opinion based on nothing but nothing but their opinion.

Self-diagnosis of ones own mental health is not completely unreliable, because the majority of people are not mentality insane. I know when I am happy, or sad. Depressed persons most always are honest with the fact their are depressed. Cheerful persons most always are honest with the fact their happy.

And I dont see where the poll makes a actual medical diagnosis, people can know when their physically not feeling well, so they can also know when their mentally not feeling well.

That being said a group like Gallup can poll these people and group them into groups like political parties, sex, or nationality and publish the information.[/quote]

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='PopeClementI(MorClemis)' post='1427634' date='Dec 1 2007, 01:09 AM']Actually, the data doesn't back up the initial claim either - that "Republicans: 'much Better Mental Health'" - in fact, the data says nothing like that at all. That interpretation is not claimed from the poll or from researchers.
Also, there is a GIGANTIC in-between area from mentally insane (which is not a medical term, by the way) to healthy.[/quote]


The real name given to the article by Gallup is "Republicans Report Much Better Mental Health Than Others" which is backed by the data. The data which does "claim" that Republicans more often than Democrats/others to rate their mental health as excellent, this data is complied into a easy to read graph titled "Ratings by of One's Own Mental Health, by Part ID".

"Republicans Report" means to say Republicans tell us, or say... And this interpretation is claimed on the very first paragraph of the article written by Gallup.

"Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls."

As for the mentally insane or aka persons with acute mental illness, most people do not suffer from such things. The point was only to say, we should trust and believe normal adults when they tell us the believe their mental health is excellent, good, or not so good. And even if someone says that they believe their mental health is poor, doesn't mean they have an acute mental illness, just maybe somewhat depressed.

Nothing has a 100% guarantee, but God, the point is I would trust the adverge American to fairly weigh the status of his/her mental health.


From the articles end.


[quote]Survey Methods

Results are based on an aggregated sample of telephone interviews with 4,014 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted in November 2004, November 2005, November 2006, and November 2007. For results based on the total aggregated sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±2 percentage points. The margin of error for smaller subsamples reported in this analysis will be larger.

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.[/quote]

[PopeClementI(MorClemis)]

I'm not quibbling with you about the actual title of the Study, but with the spin that was placed in the first post of this thread. You see the first post states that the study says something it most certainly does not.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='PopeClementI(MorClemis)' post='1427678' date='Dec 1 2007, 02:24 AM']I'm not quibbling with you about the actual title of the Study, but with the spin that was placed in the first post of this thread. You see the first post states that the study says something it most certainly does not.[/quote]


Ah, that point of yours was not clear to me. Apologizes. As for the post thats on LD, to me it just looks like a comedic commentary on the actual article.

Edited December 1, 2007 by KnightofChrist

[Justin86]

[quote name='XIX' post='1427536' date='Dec 1 2007, 11:09 AM']This poll is insane.[/quote]
And what scientific study do have to prove this?

[XIX]

I don't have scientific study. Or any evidence, and certainly no real, solid arguments to back up my idiotic claim.

I threw out an utterly worthless assertion that doubled as a play on words (the poll was about mental health). ha....ha...

*crickets, traffic noise*
*tumbleweed*

im sorry

[alicemary]

The state of mental health care is a disgrace in this country. If Republicans think they provide better mental health care they are nuts themssellves. From a perspective as someone who works in the medical field, there is little money spent on psychiatric care. That is why there are all those mentally ill street people wandering all our city streets, there is no where to place them. The dems are not much better. Sad

[MissScripture]

[quote name='alicemary' post='1427765' date='Dec 1 2007, 11:12 AM']The state of mental health care is a disgrace in this country. If Republicans think they provide better mental health care they are nuts themssellves. From a perspective as someone who works in the medical field, there is little money spent on psychiatric care. That is why there are all those mentally ill street people wandering all our city streets, there is no where to place them. The dems are not much better. Sad[/quote]
I don't think the poll had anything to do with providing mental health care. It was who thought they were in better mental health, to my understanding.

[Justin86]

[quote name='XIX' post='1427763' date='Dec 2 2007, 02:10 AM']I don't have scientific study. Or any evidence, and certainly no real, solid arguments to back up my idiotic claim.

I threw out an utterly worthless assertion that doubled as a play on words (the poll was about mental health). ha....ha...

*crickets, traffic noise*
*tumbleweed*

im sorry[/quote]

[rachael]

[quote name='XIX' post='1427763' date='Dec 1 2007, 12:10 PM']I don't have scientific study. Or any evidence, and certainly no real, solid arguments to back up my idiotic claim.

I threw out an utterly worthless assertion that doubled as a play on words (the poll was about mental health). ha....ha...

*crickets, traffic noise*
*tumbleweed*

im sorry[/quote]
i laughed.

[Socrates]

[quote name='alicemary' post='1427765' date='Dec 1 2007, 12:12 PM']The state of mental health care is a disgrace in this country. If Republicans think they provide better mental health care they are nuts themssellves. From a perspective as someone who works in the medical field, there is little money spent on psychiatric care. That is why there are all those mentally ill street people wandering all our city streets, there is no where to place them. The dems are not much better. Sad[/quote]
Yes, obviously the reason mental health is so poor in this country is that the government is not spending enough money on it! Surely we would all be much more sane and mentally healthy if the the government did more to intervene. Heck, they might have even been able to cure my ultraconservative psychosis, had they intervened quicker. I might be undergoing successful treatment at a government-funded clinic, rather than be allowed to roam the streets, spreading my madness . . .

[Socrates]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1427386' date='Nov 30 2007, 04:26 PM']Seems to be in line with other polls, Republicans are more often, Believe in God, to go to Church, give more to the poor time and money, happier, and I've seen somewhere have better love making.[/quote]
Yeah. While you have to take such polls with a certain grain of salt, I'm hardly surprised by the reasults. Many liberals seem to have issues of some kind or another.
And the all-out embrace of the culture of death by most liberals in the Democratic Party is neither conducive to, nor indicative of, mental health and happiness.

[aalpha1989]

Republican boys date democratic girls. They plan to marry republican girls, but think they're entitled to a little fun first!

Republicans keep their window shades drawn for no reason, while Democrats keep their shades open but should keep them drawn!

[kenrockthefirst]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1427415' date='Nov 30 2007, 05:55 PM']Well they would say your crazy. Anyhow, what is your definition of independent or objective, measurable criteria? Last I knew Gallup and Zogby aren't wings of the Republican or Democratic Parties. And they "scientifically" poll/ask persons a list of questions on a particular subject, and measure the findings.[/quote]
Précisément.

As to my definition of objective, measurable criteria, for a start I'd list the question(s) I asked, which this poll doesn't do. You can get people to give whatever answer you want depending on how you phrase a question.

Anyway, the point is, Republicans don't necessarily [i]actually[/i] enjoy better mental health but [i]say[/i] that they do, based on whatever question(s) they were asked and their own perceptions about themselves.