Grove City Or Briar Cliff Universities...

[chelsea]

I looked at Creighton, and now I'm going to Franciscan. I met a girl there who transferred out of Creighton because it was so liberal and she absolutely hated it.

Creighton is in Omaha, and in a very bad part of Omaha at that. I've heard that their theology is not so great, but i dont know as much about it.

While the city of Steubenville is not so great, you'll find that in any city. The campus is safe. You can major in a ton of stuff, and double in theology. You'll find a lot of mixed opinions of Steubie on this board, some haters and some people who went there and loved it.

Here is a thread about steubvie that i started:
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=69942&hl=franciscan+university+steubenvill"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s...ty+steubenville[/url]

its long, but there's probably some good info in there.

Briar Cliff sends me a lot of stuff in the mail, which i quickly ignored, idk why. Checking their website, the first things that jumps out at me isnt religion or their catholic roots, so i dont know how catholic they are. You cant always base these things off a website.

I would suggest visiting them and going to the Catholic center and mass and talking to some of the students.

[photosynthesis]

My advice is... it's your life. Think about what God wants you to study and ignore everyone else. I know it can be hard dealing with parents who seem to have their own agenda for your life. My mom's certainly like that. And you know, it sounds like your mom has a good head on your shoulders and really wants what's best for you. Even still, God knows better. You are the one who is going to spend four years in college--be sure that the school you choose will make *you* happy.

Majoring in a 'career oriented' subject isn't a guarantee that you'll have a job as soon as you graduate. I know a LOT of recent college grads who majored in subects like Theology, Classics, Art and Philosophy and not one of them is living in a cardboard box. Nevertheless, it might be worthwhile to do a double major... you could study something like Philosophy or Ancient Near Eastern Architecture or what have you, and then choose a more profitable major like business or computer science.

If God wants you to study theology and the humanities, He's definitely going to provide for you and give you exactly what you need in order to do His will.

[photosynthesis]

double post

Edited October 24, 2007 by photosynthesis

[EAnn246]

I go to a college (Presbyterian affiliated, but with an amazing Catholic college program/group) that is located roughly 30 minutes away from Grove City.

I interviewed at Grove City during my senior year of high school and felt completely out of place and judged. During my interview, the admissions officer asked me what my religious affiliation was and when I responded "Roman Catholic," she pratically jumped down my throat and criticized me about it. Later during the interview, I explained something I did with my youth group during high school. She refused to believe that it was "Christian" because I was not Protestant. During the tour, my dad asked about Catholic Mass. The guide laughed and said that there wasn't any on campus because it wasn't welcomed. I'm sure that the entire college is not like that, but I wouldn't want to go somewhere where I felt that I had to hide my faith to be accepted.

Needless to say, my school is amazingly supportive of the Catholic Campus community. A priest comes from a local church to celebrate Mass on Saturday night. He also comes to Newman Club, which is held once a week. As a group, we have grown to be close friends.

Also, at Grove City, you can't walk on the grass! (which is a huge joke at my school).

As for the major thing. I'm a humanites (English & history) major. There are plenty of jobs out there for humanities majors. As I told my cousin who's dad is pushing him to major in something in the medical or law field, go humanities! (He wants to major in history & classics)


Good luck in your college search!

Edited October 24, 2007 by EAnn246

[Autumn Dusk]

NY state (minus the city)

St. Rose -not Catholic
Sienna - meh-Catholic, teachings ok but not super in line
LeMoyne - depends on the crowd, Jesuit, but overall not too liberal, low clergy presance
St. John Fisher- somewhat catholic
Canisus- very Jesuit (enough said)
Niagara - Vicentian, Catholic in spirit, no bad abuses, cleargy ever-present
Bonaventure - Franciscan, lack of clergy, Catholic principles, no bad abuses

[-I---Love]

Concerning Majors I believe the issue will become easier once you start your first year and are out of the house. Then it seems to disappear somewhat and changing occurs with most students.

The thing about finding a school with a solid Catholic Theology program is that as with anything it seems there is always at least one bad apple of the bunch. So even at an orthodox school one crazy heretical professor may slip in. And such cases lead one to appreciate and learn how to defend their faith instead of being surrounded by ppl who all agree, and not having to realize what the "real world" is like; I realize this is somewhat of a sterotype. Of course I'd rather such professors fall off the face of the earth

If financial aid is an issue - don't ever give up. Call schools back 3 times! Use others schools numbers as leverage to get more aid at their school - continue playing this game until you have the final school where you need them to be and where they really can't give you more.

Most anywhere allows double majors.

I'm not trying to give FUS a bad name; but I do recall a rape on campus two years ago. The place is a crappy city that is not a city. The only thing there is the college! Location shouldn't stop anyone, but it should be considered. This is where you will live for four years!!!

[chelsea]

[quote name='-I---Love' post='1408716' date='Oct 24 2007, 07:05 PM']I'm not trying to give FUS a bad name; but I do recall a rape on campus two years ago. The place is a crappy city that is not a city. The only thing there is the college! Location shouldn't stop anyone, but it should be considered. This is where you will live for four years!!![/quote]

i just want to point out that rape can happen anywhere, not only at FUS. I live close to the Naval Academy and there have been multiple reports of rape, and at our state school as well.

[JP2Iloveyou]

[quote name='chelsea' post='1408811' date='Oct 24 2007, 09:00 PM']i just want to point out that rape can happen anywhere, not only at FUS. I live close to the Naval Academy and there have been multiple reports of rape, and at our state school as well.[/quote]

I haven't posted on here in ages, but being from the Diocese of Sioux City, I feel like I have to warn you about Briar Cliff. I don't know that it is possible to get more heterodox than they are there. While we have a FANTASTIC bishop with a very good presbyterate, Rome wasn't built in a day. As I understand it, the bishop is doing what he can to reign in BC, but since it is Franciscan, and not directly under his authority, his hands are somewhat tied. He has appointed a wonderful young priest, who also happens to be the Diocesan vocations director, as their campus minister though.

I might recommend the University of St. Thomas. They have a fantastic philosophy department and a wonderful Catholic Studies department. Their theology department is very good as well, if you know the right professors to take (read-Dr. Boyle).

[photosynthesis]

[quote name='-I---Love' post='1408716' date='Oct 24 2007, 07:05 PM']I'm not trying to give FUS a bad name; but I do recall a rape on campus two years ago. The place is a crappy city that is not a city. The only thing there is the college! Location shouldn't stop anyone, but it should be considered. This is where you will live for four years!!![/quote]
Once in two years? That's pretty good.

The college I went to (Goucher College in Baltimore, MD) has a very high suicide rate. It's a small school with only 1500 students, but about 2 or 3 committed suicide every year. Nevertheless, Newsweek named it the "Most Happy" college of 2004 or something like that.

Edited October 25, 2007 by photosynthesis

[Deus te Amat]

[quote name='JP2Iloveyou' post='1408933' date='Oct 24 2007, 11:52 PM']I haven't posted on here in ages, but being from the Diocese of Sioux City, I feel like I have to warn you about Briar Cliff. I don't know that it is possible to get more heterodox than they are there. While we have a FANTASTIC bishop with a very good presbyterate, Rome wasn't built in a day. As I understand it, the bishop is doing what he can to reign in BC, but since it is Franciscan, and not directly under his authority, his hands are somewhat tied. He has appointed a wonderful young priest, who also happens to be the Diocesan vocations director, as their campus minister though.

I might recommend the University of St. Thomas. They have a fantastic philosophy department and a wonderful Catholic Studies department. Their theology department is very good as well, if you know the right professors to take (read-Dr. Boyle).[/quote]


hahaha... Actually, I'm in MN. I'm hoping to get out of state.

thank you for the information about Briar Cliff... *sigh*

Can anyone give me a list of Colleges that have Good Orthodox Theology programs?

Steubie, Christendom, Ave Maria, Benedictine, St. Thomas, Aquinas College (CA), Aquinas College (TN)

[kateri05]

i've heard that belmont abbey in nc is pretty good.


go to the national catholic register's website and check out their college spread. it was published a few weeks ago...

[Deus te Amat]

ooooh Good advice, thanks Kateri

[-I---Love]

Toronto School of Theology (esp. St.Michael's) - doesn't get much better than that for Theo at least pertaining to their grad program ... I am assuming their grad program means they also have good undergrad

[-I---Love]

Toronto School of Theology (esp. St.Michael's) - doesn't get much better than that for Theo at least pertaining to their grad program ... I am assuming their grad program means they also have good undergrad