XIX Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Hey Sarah, why is my self-portrait in your avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahB Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I'm watching you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 [quote name='XIX' post='1401083' date='Oct 12 2007, 12:08 AM']I dunno how I forgot you. [/quote] me neither. Hey, all the proddy friends (minus Budge, who is prolly banned again) are comin' out on this thread! Good to have you all here! The title was funny, but I prefer separated brethren, though I used to joke with my good friend who was protestant, thinking about becoming Catholic... (I would say "heretic!" and he would say "separated brethren!"... and so forth). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 [quote name='Andreas E.' post='1401316' date='Oct 12 2007, 02:11 PM']I wasn't offended. And I chuckled when Justin86 made his comment. I thought it was funny. I also feel respected. Everybody happy now? :-)[/quote] Maybe I'm just touchy. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 I repeat: is protestantism a heresy? do protestants believe the protestant heresy? Heretic does not mean Hellish demon. It means misguided Christian. Protestants (not to mention most Catholics) are heretics. FULL STOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendofJPII Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) [quote name='hyperdulia again' post='1401368' date='Oct 12 2007, 03:37 PM']I repeat: is protestantism a heresy? do protestants believe the protestant heresy? Heretic does not mean Hellish demon. It means misguided Christian. Protestants (not to mention most Catholics) are heretics. FULL STOP.[/quote] Can you find any writings or quotes from either Pope Ben or PJPII where non-Catholics or non-Christians are formally adressed as pagans or heretics? As I said before, language conotations change, and those terms have not been used by the popes of our Church for quite some time, therefore, to use those terms to adress non-Catholic/or non-Christians is not to speak with the mind of the Church, imo. Edited October 12, 2007 by friendofJPII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosieranna Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) Is this thread meant to be a simple inquiry or an attempt to suss out theological differences between myriad Prot denominations? If the former, I've already mentioned my current presence on PM. If the latter, it might serve more of a purpose on the Debate Board. (edited for a typo) Edited October 12, 2007 by Nadezhda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I think this should def. be moved. I'm not sure whether the title was intentionally provocative, but regardless, it's no long about simply asking if any Phatmassers are Protestant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 With all due respect to the current and preceding Holy Fathers, they are no more Pope than those that came before (aor than those that will come after) I can provide hundreds of instances of Popes and Bishops referring to Protestants kindly, and charitably as what they are HERETICS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendofJPII Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) [quote name='hyperdulia again' post='1401391' date='Oct 12 2007, 04:17 PM']With all due respect to the current and preceding Holy Fathers, they are no more Pope than those that came before (aor than those that will come after) I can provide hundreds of instances of Popes and Bishops referring to Protestants kindly, and charitably as what they are HERETICS.[/quote] But the Holy Father leads the Church [i]today.[/i] The culture and context of the time period is a factor in what terms should or should not be used. The Holy Spirit knows how to best to pursue inter-faith relations, and we can trust that he leading the current pope in this regard. An approach that was used 500 years ago may not be the best approach today .For example, a religous war may have been appropriate in the middle ages, but it would certainly not be appropriate today, baring dire circumstances. If the current Holy Father is not using the term heretic to address Protestants, neither should we. Edited October 12, 2007 by friendofJPII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 The Pope has many powers. Twittling with objective reality is not one of them. Protestants are heretics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Well then let's go with the phorum guidelines shall we? [quote]Personal Attacks A post or comment that has nothing to do with the topic, but is specifically meant to upset or criticize another person or group of people. This includes, but is not limited to, calling people "heretics" (used in a derogatory manner), "democrooks", etc.[/quote] I think the title of this thread goes against the guidelines pretty clearly. Honestly I'm not sure why it hasn't been deleted yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosieranna Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Does my question not warrant an answer? I don't argue theology-I admit I'm not qualified. I just wondered if this was to be a roll call or serve some other purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 I resent your characterization of my post. It is not an attack to say that a person who believes heresy is a heretic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 I simply want to know if there were any Prots here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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