ruso Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Rowan Williams, archbishop of Canterbury, primate of the Anglican eclesial comunión and druide in its free short whiles, has a serious problem: the toy that invented an adulterous king breaks to him between its hands. The Church that was born in the bed of Henry VIII is happening through the most difficult moments of its risky history. Everything began when it was decided to order women, breaking with that millenarian Tradition of whom the Anglicans try to be witnesses occupying a “average route” between the Protestantism on the one hand and the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches by another one. The liberal sector of the anglicanis had, and has, the frying pan by the handle and were able to carry out which for more of a century took dreaming. Sure, as much the Anglocatholic sector as the evangelical one was not, nor is, by the work of which they turn the Anglican comunión which never it has been nor it assumes that it can be. After the arrangement of women many Anglocatholics left in the direction of Rome or Bizancio. Among them, enough priests and some prelate of importance, as it were the case of the Anglican bishop of London. Not few evangelical Anglicans, that is of protestantizante tendency, removed discomforts but among them as soon as exodus took place some. But indeed those are these that can explode in thousand pieces the Anglican Church. The reason is the approval of the morality of the homosexual relations and the arrangement of ministers who are homosexual assets. That way the preservative protestant Anglicans do not want. And sure although in Great Britain and the U.S.A. They are a minority, in Africa are overwhelming majority. And the greater breeding ground of Anglicans is Africa anywhere in the world. In Great Britain there are today more Muslims than Anglican that the rites practice and in the U.S.A. the Anglican conmunion is between which they see reduced his members to a constant rate and seems that unstoppable. In the middle of all that reality, it finishes occurring to know that Rowan Willimas thought to celebrate, the next month of November, a religious service in London, that in principle had to be secret, for homosexual priests and their pairs. In this act it had predicted to read a titled homily “Present Reality and future possibilities for lesbians and homosexuals in the Church”. Sure, it was unthinkable that something thus could be hidden for a long time. And as soon as it has been known, to afraid of Rowan him have rained cakes of all parts. On the one hand, the conservatives have raised the roof. By the other, liberal the favorable ones to the arrangement of homosexuals accuse of not giving the face to him and wanting to go in secret plan. The less and less Anglocatholics ones which they are surely in that comunión will be thinking because they did not go away before or when it is now the best moment to leave that boat that sinks. Rowan is conscious that it is not possible to maintain in a same eclesial communion to and others. He knows that no of the parts is going to yield. The libs will not allow that passages occur towards the previous situation and the evangelical ones never will accept that its church is disobeyed what for them is a clear and forceful sentence of the Scripture to the homosexual practice. Therefore the Anglican primate, sooner or later, will have to make a decision. Or with, or others. My sensation is that to him it would like to yield the libs before but knows that that would suppose the immediate separation of all the Evangelical Anglican, that would happen to be a protestant denomination more. And we would not be before a schism like the Methodist, but before one much more deep one. In addition, Rowan is not idiot and knows that indeed that sector of the anglicanismo is most active, the plus missionary, the one that has more members than really they can be considered like followers. But it is not less certain that if is put from that they want to close the door to the arrangement of homosexuals, one is going away to him to most of throw above the Anglican comunión in North America and all the British Anglo-liberal party. I do not know to what extent the ecumenical question in all this internal conflict will play something. Rowan knows that as much Rome as the orthodox churches are pending of how everything is solved. Here as soon as one knows that the orthodox ones have maintained optimal relations with the Anglicans in the last century and means. The arrangement of women was a tremendous one step back. And if finally the ordination of homosexuals is approved, it is possible to be affirmed much with total certainty who the Orthodox Churches are going to retrace steps little or of ecumenical way that has journeyed with the Anglicans. With respect to Rome, I do not know if some movement will take place that goes beyond some declaration of the Pope. Really, we can be attending the dissolution of a eclesial community that never had of separated of the Church of Christ or who, to do it, must have suffered a same fate that the rest of protestant denominations. Nobody forgets that day of today, the nominal head of the Anglican Church continues being the British monarchy. Nothing so absurd, nothing so prescindible. If this Church disappears, I will not be who I cry it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Think you meant good bye in your title. I would hope this will have many heading for the exits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 ruso, did you write that or can I have a link? I have 2 friends that started the conversion process from evangelical to catholic only to settle in anglican to prevent family drama. Rowan Williams is such a good writer/theologian. If you have not read his stuff I suggest you do. It is weird this is happening to him. He would make a great catholic cardinal someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruso Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1387780' date='Sep 18 2007, 05:37 PM']ruso, did you write that or can I have a link? I have 2 friends that started the conversion process from evangelical to catholic only to settle in anglican to prevent family drama. Rowan Williams is such a good writer/theologian. If you have not read his stuff I suggest you do. It is weird this is happening to him. He would make a great catholic cardinal someday.[/quote] The schizophrenia of the Anglicans is strange, a day they say that they are going to give cult to Maria, and now leave with this. It seems that Rowan Williams supports the ordinations of active homoxesuals. This is a article that I have translated of the Spanish, costs to me much to do it. It is not difficult to find information, the scandal this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) Incidentally, though I have noticed many phatmassers from various Protestant denominations, I haven't spotted an Anglican here yet. Is there none here, or is it just because I am new here? Edited September 18, 2007 by Innocent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I think Staretz maybe Catholic anonymous's mother married an anglican I think My boy Sacred Music Man was an anglican until about 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomProddy Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 [quote name='Innocent' post='1387820' date='Sep 18 2007, 06:06 PM']Incidentally, though I have noticed many phatmassers from various Protestant denominations, I haven't spotted an Anglican here yet.[/quote] Hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 [quote name='RandomProddy' post='1387868' date='Sep 18 2007, 11:29 PM']Hi [/quote] Oh, Hi! Nice to meet you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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