cmotherofpirl Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Read the section halfway down about redifining marriage. http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/106/13.0.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 His daughter! ewwe. What are these peeps thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 If you go by the Massachusetts ruling, incest can be legal. The courts will have to rule that any impediment to marriage is illegal. I asssume the age of consent will be under attack next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 i agree ugh. we're ughimg two different things, but ya ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Ugh is right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I wonder which trailer park they were from? :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I wonder which trailer park they were from? that was pretty mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 hahaha. Has anyone ever seen "The Trailer Park Boys"? Hilarious show. Little or no incest in it. Many a swear word though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I wonder which trailer park they were from? :thatsfunny: :spit: :crackup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickRitaMichael Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I think lawsuits like this are good b/c they serve to remind the public that even though they think they are being 'fair and non-judgemental,' everyone has absolutes. Maybe they'll think twice about the 'right' for anyone and everyone to get married.... I've also heard about Polygamists suing the govt. for saying they can't be married to more than one person, that they're taking away their rights, too. I hope this all has a good end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 it's an ansurdist notion to suggest that gay marriage leads to incest, bestiality, or anything else. much like it would be an absurdist notion to say that heterosexual marriage leads to homosexual marriage. the state should either "marry" it's citizens to anyone they want to marry (outside of their immediate family, and provided that they're human). or it should stay out of the business of marriage and leave it to religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 so the gov't' can draw the line of family and species, but it cant draw the line of gender? it's not that homosexual marriage would lead to that. it's just that the line is being pushed further and further back. our society is all about fighting against oppression of lifestyles, and if this becomes the norm they'll need somethin new to fight for. the further and further the line goes, the more and more they start seeing a world-view where there is no line whatsoever. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 it's an ansurdist notion to suggest that gay marriage leads to incest, bestiality, or anything else. much like it would be an absurdist notion to say that heterosexual marriage leads to homosexual marriage. the state should either "marry" it's citizens to anyone they want to marry (outside of their immediate family, and provided that they're human). or it should stay out of the business of marriage and leave it to religion. THe Massachesetts ruling basically says any two poeople can marry. period. Already someone in Utah is challenging the law against polygamy based on this ruling and going one step further: any number of people should be free to marry whoever they want. A couple convicted of incest (story on open mic) could also use this argument that the state cannot regulate marriage. The next challenge will be to drop the age of consent. In the Netherlands the age of consent is 12, in Canada it is 14. In the US it is about 16. depending on the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I think it's a sign of a perverse society and a perverse mind that a loving and committed relationship (sexual and not) between two persons of the same gender equals sex between immediate family members and sex between beings belonging to different species. marriage is a sacrament, something belonging to the church. the state can recognize or not recognize whatever it wants to and it doesn't mean anything. it recognizes the second through 100th marriages of a divorced person. the church doesn't. it says that two people who have no intention of being open to life or being faithful to one another can contract a valid marriage. the church doesn't. it says that a man physically incapable of getting an erection can contract a valid marriage. the church doesn't. the state has no basis for telling citizens that they cannot marry. it has abdicated any moral authority it ever had. there are compelling non-religious reasons for the incest ban and for the ban on cross-species intercourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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