MissyP89 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 You have no idea how much I never knew about Catholicism that I learned here. And for those of you wanting to do the Divine Mercy Chaplet, it's on EWTN at 3pm Eastern time. The best part is that it's sung... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans1513 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1382187' date='Sep 9 2007, 11:22 PM']WHy dont we teach people about this/[/quote] Yeah, I never heard of it till college... I like it. Since this past lent, I have been trying to make every Sunday a mini-Easter, and every Friday a mini-Good Friday. It really helps me remember what Sundays are about, and "Keep Holy the Lord's Day" as well. For example, today I walked home from Mass praying (I discovered that the church I go to is approximately one rosary and one divine mercy chaplet from my house ) and then this afternoon I talked to my family for a while through internet phone, and then I went for a walk and stopped in a bakery to buy something on the way. Hmmm... Sundays are so much easier than Fridays... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1382187' date='Sep 10 2007, 03:22 AM']WHy dont we teach people about this/ If not for phatmass I wouldnt know...thus, I go to hell?[/quote] Yeah, I didn't really know until Phatmass. I mean, I knew that my in-laws didn't eat meat on any Friday, but it hadn't been explained to me, so I didn't know you were supposed to do anything on Fridays outside of Lent for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 yea, its cool. I just never knew about it and that bugs me. I would say I need a "dummies for catholic practices" but Ive read that book and it was not worth while for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photosynthesis Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Check to see what your local Bishop's Conference has said about the Friday fast. Some countries don't allow you to make some sort of other sacrifice. It's best to obey the rules of the diocese you are in and not the one you're from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chrysostom Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Attend Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 [quote name='Chrysostom' post='1382518' date='Sep 10 2007, 11:37 AM']Attend Mass.[/quote] I don't think I'd consider that a penance at all. I don't think the Church considers that a penance either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 [quote name='XIX' post='1382143' date='Sep 9 2007, 09:53 PM']Basically, we are called to make a sacrifice on every Friday. During Lent, we give up meat. Some replace meat with light bulbs. When it's not Lent, we are still to make a sacrifice. Giving up meat is what some Catholics do, but others replace that sacrifice with something else. Hope dat helps. [/quote] Just to explain the lightbulbs comment... That's taken from a Simpson's quote regarding Catholicism... Homer: No meat!!??! What do they eat, lightbulbs??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 [quote name='photosynthesis' post='1382505' date='Sep 10 2007, 11:18 AM']Some countries don't allow you to make some sort of other sacrifice.[/quote] Interesting language. Do they actually "not allow"? Seems strange to me. OT I have a lot of issue with the modern juridicism of the West (i.e., ordering the Christian life according to the concepts of sin and punishment). Western Christians need to move away from the constant emphasis upon sin and punishment. In the East one does things, e.g., not eating blood, or -- in the case of women -- wearing a veil during prayer, etc., because it deepens ones commitment to Christ and incarnates His life into our own being, and not because of some canonical penalty. Theology must not be reduced to canon law. Salvation (i.e., theosis) is an ontologically transformative process, and not a legal declaration. /rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans1513 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 [quote name='photosynthesis' post='1382505' date='Sep 10 2007, 12:18 PM']Check to see what your local Bishop's Conference has said about the Friday fast. Some countries don't allow you to make some sort of other sacrifice. It's best to obey the rules of the diocese you are in and not the one you're from.[/quote] Hmmm... interesting... didn't know that, I figured it was a universal thing... I just looked on the Episcopal Chile site, and all I found was stuff on Lent pretty much... so I'm thinking its the same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans1513 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 [quote name='Revprodeji' post='1382551' date='Sep 10 2007, 01:28 PM']Interesting language. Do they actually "not allow"? Seems strange to me. OT I have a lot of issue with the modern juridicism of the West (i.e., ordering the Christian life according to the concepts of sin and punishment). Western Christians need to move away from the constant emphasis upon sin and punishment. In the East one does things, e.g., not eating blood, or -- in the case of women -- wearing a veil during prayer, etc., because it deepens ones commitment to Christ and incarnates His life into our own being, and not because of some canonical penalty. Theology must not be reduced to canon law. Salvation (i.e., theosis) is an ontologically transformative process, and not a legal declaration. /rant.[/quote] Its always interesting to me to hear these comments... I definitely see where you are coming from. On the other hand, maybe its just my personal experience, I don't/haven't seen so much of the legalistic aspect. When I started thinking about wearing a veil, the thought of penalty and sin never was brought into discussion. Maybe I feel guilt more about some things that an Eastern Christian wouldn't, I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Guilt has its place, but if our focus is on avoiding the negative (guilt driven) rather than embracing the positive (theosis) it could leave our end result funny. If we are striving for sanctification then naturally we are going to be avoiding the negative (things that would cause guilt) but by purposely trying to avoid things that give guilt we might not be moving towards the divine. Its the old "reason behind the reason" as far as legalism with women's dressing. we are not short of that at all on the debate forum right now. It is just sad that legalism is a priority for many, and the aspects of sin are such a focus for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans1513 Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 [quote name='Totus Tuus' post='1382530' date='Sep 10 2007, 12:54 PM']I don't think I'd consider that a penance at all. I don't think the Church considers that a penance either...[/quote] Well, if one didn't ever go to daily Mass, then the giving up of time would be a penance I think, and you would be spending it growing closer to God. In the same way that people suggested a rosary, divine mercy chaplet, and stations of the cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 [quote name='XIX' post='1382143' date='Sep 9 2007, 08:53 PM']Basically, we are called to make a sacrifice on every Friday. During Lent, we give up meat. Some replace meat with light bulbs. When it's not Lent, we are still to make a sacrifice. Giving up meat is what some Catholics do, but others replace that sacrifice with something else. Hope dat helps. [/quote] That's incorrect. According to the universal law of the Latin Church all Western Catholics are to abstain from meat on Fridays. In a few countries it is permitted to replace that with a fairly large penance, but it is considered better to abstain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Gone Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 according the the universal law of the latin church we cant eat meat on any friday? Not that I doubt you, but could you cite that? I still have an issue with theology that is reduced to canon law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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