M.SIGGA Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 This is really sad that our laws have had to come to this. What do you all think? MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH Painkillers for aborted babies? Lawmakers consider bill to relieve 'terror and suffering of children' Posted: February 7, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com A bill is gathering support in the Virginia legislature that would require unborn children be administered a painkiller before abortions are performed. A measure introduced by Republican Johnsonville brat Black will be considered by the justice committee of Virginia's lower chamber, the House of Delegates, Monday, reported WRC-TV in Washington, D.C. The Senate will address a similar measure Thursday. "We must do everything possible to relieve the terror and suffering of children as they are aborted," said Black in a statement. The plan, which applies to abortions performed after the 12th week of pregnancy, would bring criminal charges to any abortion doctor who does not administer the painkiller. WRC said the bill has support in the Virginia General Assembly, with more than 50 delegates and 15 senators acting as co-sponsors. Most of the sponsors are Republicans, but there is bipartisan support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willguy Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 So wait, we're going to admit that they can feel pain and suffer during the murder, but aren't going to call it wrong, just as long as they get a painkiller before they die?!?! I wonder if they would be okay with me punching them if I gave them a painkiller first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXpenguin21 Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 "We must do everything possible to relieve the terror and suffering of children as they are aborted," does that statment strike anyone else as odd? admiting that they are aborting the life of a child? if you abort the life of a toddler, or a teenager, it's called murder and it's a fellony, painkiller or not!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hypocritical! They call them children and acknowledge their pain! So why do they even support the atrocity known as abortion?! Heaven help us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 sick :ill: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP2Iloveyou Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 This is politics though folks. The idea is not to relieve the pain of these children, although that is objectively a good. The idea is to first get legal acknowledgement that there is a child there and that he or she can feel pain. Then, you can further steps to make it illegal to abort in the first place. With our system of government, that is the way it works, like it or not. We have to take small bites out of the culture of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 sick :ill: Amen to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 That's exactly right, JP2. It may not be as blatant a statement as we'd like to see, but it's a step in the right direction. This begins the process of acknowledging unborn, non-viable children as persons who can suffer and feel terror. Legally, persons have rights, inalienable rights, in fact, so this is an important first step in establishing personhood. It's really a good move, subtle, but good, and we shouldn't dis it. It's also encouraging that there's bipartisan support for the bill -- very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 When people are being starved to death, like they are trying to do to Terri in Florida, some docters administer morphine in case it hurts. When removing organs for donation, some docters administer morphine, just in case the person is still alive enough to hurt. Kinda of makes you WONDER..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 This is politics though folks. The idea is not to relieve the pain of these children, although that is objectively a good. The idea is to first get legal acknowledgement that there is a child there and that he or she can feel pain. Then, you can further steps to make it illegal to abort in the first place. With our system of government, that is the way it works, like it or not. We have to take small bites out of the culture of death. Yeah I can see that, but it's still sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 relieve them from the terror and suffering during thier own murder?! The plan, which applies to abortions performed after the 12th week of pregnancy, would bring criminal charges to any abortion doctor who does not administer the painkiller. I'm just curious, how are they gonna prove the doctor guilty of "failing to administer the painkiller" vs. murder? I know what your saying JP2 (gosh, i like saying that) and slowly but surely we are treading along. I'm seeing the positive......but still it's frustrating. One day, abortion will be no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleflower+JMJ Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 :sadder: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 (edited) I'm absolutely speechless. Lord, grant that I may suffer in the stead of these innocent children. Edited February 9, 2004 by Jake Huether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 :o that's messed up... very very messed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalscout Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 This is politics though folks. The idea is not to relieve the pain of these children, although that is objectively a good. The idea is to first get legal acknowledgement that there is a child there and that he or she can feel pain. Then, you can further steps to make it illegal to abort in the first place. With our system of government, that is the way it works, like it or not. We have to take small bites out of the culture of death. I agree because the it was brought up by a Repub(Not that all Republicans are pro-life) but that can be done in other ways as well. For example how about prosecuting mothers for drinking and smoking etc during pregnancy. If it is not a child then they commited no crime. If it is a child then they did. Why do they not exploit that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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