ardillacid Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 [quote name='eperez874' post='1384479' date='Sep 12 2007, 07:44 PM']it is not that they put sorcery as bad that iis the problem but the latin invocations that they use that it is the probelm wich is real sorcery[/quote] John Tolkien invented his own languages for middle-earth. So much for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 (edited) [quote name='eperez874' post='1384477' date='Sep 12 2007, 07:43 PM']i also reject lord of the rings movie[/quote] [size=1]The Lord of the Rings movie rejects you. [/size] Edited September 14, 2007 by CrossCuT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 (edited) Heck, all the spell encantations are in psuedo-latin, so maybe Harry Potter is a secret Vatican weapon to soften more people up to attending the Traditional Latin Mass. Edited September 14, 2007 by Mateo el Feo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eperez874 Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Mateo el Feo' post='1385549' date='Sep 14 2007, 04:33 PM']Heck, all the spell encantations are in psuedo-latin, so maybe Harry Potter is a secret Vatican weapon to soften more people up to attending the Traditional Latin Mass. [/quote] please do not make fun of latin mass when the pope authorized it. "John Tolkien invented his own languages for middle-earth. So much for that." it is not made by him it is a mixture of languages but it has latin in it same with harry poter. it is not only a fantasi story that makes the exuse to let people watch it. priest have told me about the exorsism that he has to make for those movies and i know it is not fake nor a made up story. becaude one of those friends who was obsesed with harry poter also had an exorsism by a priest because of harry poter and poke mon. same thing pokemon of course that is in japanese wich means demon in your poket. but there is much more than what meets the eye. society when from scratch untill they see al normal wich does not make it right. or we are fully catholic or we are what we whan to be that is our choice in this life. Edited September 24, 2007 by eperez874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 [quote name='eperez874' post='1392537' date='Sep 24 2007, 07:30 PM']please do not make fun of latin mass when the pope authorized it.[/quote]I'm afraid you've read something into my post that wasn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eperez874 Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 (edited) here is the proof that it is forbidden [url="http://www.tldm.org/News11/HarryPotterMichaelO'Brien.htm"]http://www.tldm.org/News11/HarryPotterMichaelO'Brien.htm[/url] [url="http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_article.html?a=cabc&id=10077"]http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_article.html...bc&id=10077[/url] it does not mean because it is in fiction it is right it is like saying ebcause da-vinci code is in fiction it is ok because it si under fiction or a movie or book that has blasphemies or sex or drug content it does not mean because it is under fiction it makes it right. Edited September 24, 2007 by eperez874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eperez874 Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 [quote name='Mateo el Feo' post='1392542' date='Sep 24 2007, 06:36 PM']I'm afraid you've read something into my post that wasn't there.[/quote] yes it took me a time sorry i fisrt did not understand but like you said that is one of the resons why pwoplw are afraid of the latin church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathoholic_anonymous Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Those websites are not 'proof'. They are just opinion, and dangerous opinion at that. Quotations from a false apparition (Our Lady of the Roses) are used to back up the author's point. There is more occultic danger in that apparition than there could ever be in JK Rowling's works of fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1392564' date='Sep 24 2007, 08:07 PM']Those websites are not 'proof'. They are just opinion, and dangerous opinion at that. Quotations from a false apparition (Our Lady of the Roses) are used to back up the author's point. There is more occultic danger in that apparition than there could ever be in JK Rowling's works of fiction.[/quote]I also found the link choices a little odd. The proponents of the Bayside Prophesies (something rejected by the Church) run the tldm.org website cited. They also suggest that the Vatican is controlled by satan. Go figure... The second website is a Wiccan website. Quoting their mission statement, "The Witches' Voice is a proactive educational network providing news, information services and resources for and about Pagans, Heathens, Witches and Wiccans." Not exactly the place I'd look for authoritative Vatican statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farsight one Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 [quote name='eperez874' post='1392537' date='Sep 24 2007, 06:30 PM']please do not make fun of latin mass when the pope authorized it.[/quote] He was being sarcastic. [quote]"John Tolkien invented his own languages for middle-earth. So much for that." it is not made by him it is a mixture of languages but it has latin in it same with harry poter.[/quote]No, no, and no. Elvish as made by Tolkein is an entirely unique language. It has the same general sentence structure as Latin, but that's where the similarities end. If you really want to stretch it, I guess you could say that Elvish is based off of Latin, but then again every single western(non-oriental) language in existence is ultimately based off of Latin. Whoopdy do. What does that prove? Also, harry potter, once again, uses fake Latin, not real latin. It's about as close to real Latin as the word "speako" is to spanish(for speak). [quote]same thing pokemon of course that is in japanese wich means demon in your poket. but there is much more than what meets the eye.[/quote]Actually, it's literally translated "pocket monster", but the second half more accurately means creature. Even if the word was demon, so what? Having the same name doesn't mean that they are demons too. My sister met a guy named Lucifer once. Apparently he was the most devout Christian she ever met. What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. [quote]or a movie or book that has blasphemies or sex or drug content it does not mean because it is under fiction it makes it right.[/quote]The bible has murder, incest, adultery, etc, etc, etc in it. If you're going to throw out a book simply because it has such things in it, then you are being horribly inconsistent by making an exception to your rule for the bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eperez874 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 [quote name='Farsight one' post='1392724' date='Sep 25 2007, 12:05 AM']He was being sarcastic. No, no, and no. Elvish as made by Tolkein is an entirely unique language. It has the same general sentence structure as Latin, but that's where the similarities end. If you really want to stretch it, I guess you could say that Elvish is based off of Latin, but then again every single western(non-oriental) language in existence is ultimately based off of Latin. Whoopdy do. What does that prove? Also, harry potter, once again, uses fake Latin, not real latin. It's about as close to real Latin as the word "speako" is to spanish(for speak). Actually, it's literally translated "pocket monster", but the second half more accurately means creature. Even if the word was demon, so what? Having the same name doesn't mean that they are demons too. My sister met a guy named Lucifer once. Apparently he was the most devout Christian she ever met. What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. The bible has murder, incest, adultery, etc, etc, etc in it. If you're going to throw out a book simply because it has such things in it, then you are being horribly inconsistent by making an exception to your rule for the bible.[/quote] the bible is diferent lets not play with God i know what it says. there is a difderence in just mentioning and descriving the material i do ont remmeber seeying the bible describing sexual content or reciting satanic prayers i only remeber they just metin by saying evil not the soecific prayer. either we are fully catholic! or protestant! protestant they get all their pleasure because they do not whant to offer sacrifice to God, and catholc will offer things up to GOd there is a lot of things we want in this world but we cannot get them all because it could lead us to perdition. we have two ways the ways of hell and heaven happy and conftable is totaly diferent. protestants wanted a conftable life we wanted a happy life so we choose i already did my misssion by telling you what is wrong with these movies now it is the matter for you all to choose we do not whant to admit wrong becasue then i becomes gilt to our conciense. but that is life we all make mistakes. even i do. so it is the matter of our choice i will not force you anything because i am only a man and each individual chooses his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farsight one Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 [quote name='eperez874' post='1411681' date='Oct 30 2007, 07:19 PM']the bible is diferent[/quote]That's not an explanation. [quote]i do ont remmeber seeying the bible describing sexual content or reciting satanic prayers i only remeber they just metin by saying evil not the soecific prayer.[/quote]I don't remember Harry Potter, Doom, or Diablo describing sexual content or reciting satanic prayers either. ...and I'm still waiting for your quote from Pope John Paul II condemning Harry Potter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S][N Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 The bible is full of sexual stuff, especially the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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