Is It Ever Ok To Attend An Sspx Mass?

[abercius24]

[quote name='St. Benedict' post='1361665' date='Aug 18 2007, 12:14 AM']You may disagree with the Holy Father when he is not speaking ex cathedra.[/quote]

Disagreeing is a far cry from calling him a heretic and recognizing his leadership as destructive to the future of the Church. SSPX essentially teach that the Pope is no longer a participant in the Universal and Ordinary Magisterium, which would essentially mean no faithful Bishop is a participant in the Universal and Ordinary Mageisterium, since a Bishop may not participate in such without being in complete union with the Pope. Oh, and by the way, that's two doctrines the SSPX reject from Vatican I AND Vatican II: The Continuity of a Faithful Papacy (the Shepherd) and the Infallibility of the Universal and Ordinary Magisterium. The Pope and Bishops in union with him can teach errors on a one-off basis, but can never teach heresy as a whole. Furthermore the Pope can never be an outright heretic himself.

Edited August 18, 2007 by abercius24

[Dave]

[quote name='St. Benedict' post='1361665' date='Aug 18 2007, 01:14 AM']You may disagree with the Holy Father when he is not speaking ex cathedra.[/quote]

Just because the Holy Father isn't speaking ex cathedra doesn't automatically mean one may disagree with him. The teachings against birth control, abortion, etc. aren't ex cathedra, but no Catholic may disagree with the Holy Father on such issues. Why? Because such teachings are infallible by virtue of the ordinary universal magisterium, which isn't nearly as solemn as an ex cathedra definition but is NO LESS INFALLIBLE. Vatican II used the ordinary universal magisterium to teach.

Also, a Catholic may disagree with any given prudential decision by the pope for whatever reason. However, disagreement is one thing; insinuating he's a heretic or has done great damage to the faith is quite another. And the SSPX, as abercius' article shows, cross that line big-time.

[abercius24]

[quote name='Dave' post='1361712' date='Aug 18 2007, 01:16 AM']Just because the Holy Father isn't speaking ex cathedra doesn't automatically mean one may disagree with him. The teachings against birth control, abortion, etc. aren't ex cathedra, but no Catholic may disagree with the Holy Father on such issues. Why? Because such teachings are infallible by virtue of the ordinary universal magisterium, which isn't nearly as solemn as an ex cathedra definition but is NO LESS INFALLIBLE. Vatican II used the ordinary universal magisterium to teach.

Also, a Catholic may disagree with any given prudential decision by the pope for whatever reason. However, disagreement is one thing; insinuating he's a heretic or has done great damage to the faith is quite another. And the SSPX, as abercius' article shows, cross that line big-time.[/quote]

Wow, its almost like we had the same thought at the very same time. That's awesome! God bless you, my friend!

Edited August 18, 2007 by abercius24